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Lemass, Seán F.

Wednesday, 29 June 1966

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 223 Nbr. 10


Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Industrial Planning.

I would refer the Deputy to the statement issued on the 22nd June by the Government Information Bureau, on behalf of my Department, in connection with the Report on Arrangements for Planning at ...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Kennedy Round Negotiations.

We are giving constant attention to recent developments within the European Economic Community in relation to the financing of the Community's Common Agricultural Policy, the introduction of singl...More Button

With regard to the second part of the question, Ireland has, in accordance with the procedures adopted by the Contracting Parties of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, taken steps to parti...More Button

The application does not become operative until the Trade Agreement with Great Britain comes into operation on 1st July.More Button

I have explained to the Deputy that the possibility of making application for membership to GATT turned on the conclusion of the new Trade Agreement with Britain. That has been negotiated and comes...More Button

I have no reason to think otherwise.More Button

Britain has nothing to do with it.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Turnover Tax on Food and Fuel.

We can discuss that tomorrow when the Bill is before the House.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Unemployment Benefit for Dockers.

This was raised when Deputy Norton was Minister for Social Welfare.More Button

Order of Business.

It is proposed to take business in the following order: Nos. 2, 12, 13 and 1.More Button

Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill, 1966: Second Stage (resumed).

They have something like 60 in England.More Button

What has that got to do with it?More Button

The agreement was that I should get in at 4.30 p.m.More Button

We may have an inquiry into the cause of this dispute as well. It appears from the speeches that all Parties in the House are agreed that a Ministry of Labour should be set up and that, in itself,...More Button

Deputies appear to have a very queer conception of the functions of Government and perhaps I should give them some opportunity of revising their ideas in that regard. I do not mind Deputy Ryan who...More Button

Deputy Corish and Deputy Cosgrave referred to these State bodies and seemed to think that once they had been instituted by legislation, they should be allowed to go their own course without further...More Button

In our view there should and must be effective supervision, not in a manner which invades their autonomy in the least degree, or which involves interference with their day to day administration, p...More Button

It may be that a Minister, in relation to one of these State boards concerned in some development, will decide, after inquiry and investigation, that he should do nothing about a particular develop...More Button

I was astonished at the extraordinary views expressed by the Leader of the Fine Gael Party with regard to the operation of these State boards and the attitude of the Government in relation to them....More Button

It would be an extraordinary situation if we were to adopt what Deputy Cosgrave appeared to have in mind, leaving all this work entirely to the administration of civil servants, the Government comi...More Button

I expressed some ideas about the responsibilities of Ministers when introducing this Bill. I urge Deputies now to try to realise that far more important than the routine administration work they d...More Button

Deputy Corish dealt with matters that did relevantly arise on this Bill. I noted that on this occasion, as on others, he appeared to interpret every reference to industrial relations or industrial ...More Button

Deputy O'Leary talked about Deputies here being eloquent in describing the shortcomings of the trade unions. I do not remember any debate in this Dáil in recent years in which a Deputy was ...More Button

I must tell Deputy Ryan that I listened to his speech with a considerable amount of admiration. Winston Churchill once said, talking about a speech made by a colleague of his, that is contained ev...More Button

I was interested in the comments of Deputies on the operation of the employment exchanges. May I say this is an aspect of the situation to which we have given a great deal of attention? We have a...More Button

——and to make employment exchanges appear to workers more as places out of which they can hope to get in touch with employments suited to their needs and skills and in which an offer o...More Button

This will take a long time, and if we look at the experience of countries which have full, or almost full, employment, the efforts made to channel all employment through similar institutions have i...More Button

This is what we must try to change. We recognise we will not succeed in making these employment exchanges more useful to workers and employers in this matter of puting workers in touch with jobs un...More Button

The decision to put the administration of these employment exchanges under the Minister for Labour is part of that process of trying to bring about that improvement in the course of time. It may be...More Button

Deputy O'Leary talked about the need for considering the possibility of a general reorganisation of the Government and re-allocation of functions between Ministers. This is a process which goes on...More Button

It is true, as Deputy O'Leary said, that the setting up of a Ministry of Labour does nothing in itself, but we do hope it may be the start of something that will prove to be beneficial. Its establi...More Button

Deputy O'Leary urged the Government not to approach this question with what he called a mailed fist concept. I have spoken at length on this subject of industrial relations in the course of this ye...More Button

No. I should be very glad to send the Deputy the full text.More Button

This is one of the problems with which public men have to deal when they make a speech of that kind: the sub-editing of it in the newspapers often tends, if not to distort, at any rate to detract f...More Button

Deputy O'Leary, in that regard, was critical of our newspapers and seemed inclined to suggest that a lot of the public concern about our industrial situation was artificial to the extent that it wa...More Button

We have at the present time two disputes—not a spate of disputes as Deputy O'Leary suggested—two main disputes, the bank dispute and the paper mills dispute. In so far as the banks ar...More Button

This dispute in the paper industry— and again I understand there are prospects that negotiations will continue, and we hope they will produce a solution—presents to the Government, to t...More Button

Naturally one would say it should be accepted by the parties, but I am dealing with a situation where we have otherwise to envisage perpetual deadlock. I do not say that is going to be the positi...More Button

Perhaps I should not have taken that example. But we can conceive of a dispute arising in some industry causing a strike and negotiations drawn out over a long period failing to produce an accepta...More Button

But how long do we go? Here is a dispute which has gone on for four months, which is undoubtedly jeopardising the continued existence of an important industry and which has caused tremendous hards...More Button

The problem may not be solved by the Government, the employers' organisation or the Congress of Trade Unions, but it is a problem we will not get rid of by shutting our eyes to it.More Button

What I am trying to pose as the problem we have to face is: how do you bring a dispute to an end where reasonable compromise cannot be negotiated? I do not know to what extent in this dispute ther...More Button

I may be; perhaps I was unwise to take this particular example. However, this one dispute is directing our attention to the possibility that this problem presenting itself to us —not to the ...More Button

I am working on the theory—the theory the Deputy accepts—that the function of the trade union negotiators in a dispute is to achieve a reasonable compromise. I am posing the problem: w...More Button

If in the last resort no compromise arrangement should prove feasible, are we to abandon the whole thing?More Button

Here is one dispute which almost for the first time has brought us face to face with the possibility.More Button

Deputy Corish referred to the fact that the Government had given notice they were introducing Bills to amend the Industrial Relations Act, 1946, and the Trade Union Act. He wondered whether this w...More Button

The aim of the Government would be to proceed in all these matters as far as possible on the basis of agreement. We would prefer to reach some agreement than otherwise. But it is clear we cannot ...More Button

No sanction whatever. We are hoping we will have this type of collaboration and help.More Button

There are no sanctions at all.More Button

They do not have to do it. The point I made here before is that by and large the Government prefer in the preparation of legislation of this kind to proceed more slowly on the basis of agreement t...More Button

Deputies have asked me if I would make any announcement or state my intention as to the personality who would fill that Ministry. I think this would be unwise. The Dáil should consider the...More Button

The Deputy might make wrong assumptions in that regard. You will not get me to reveal my intentions by a process of elimination.More Button

Even though it would appear to be against the interests of the Government in this regard, I think the Leas-Cheann Comhairle's ruling in this is correct. By putting the amendment in this form, the ...More Button

The House cannot stultify itself by voting in any one way.More Button

One is as good as the other.More Button

It is a matter for the Chair.More Button