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Tully, James

Tuesday, 7 June 1966

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 223 Nbr. 1

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - CIE Pensions.

Would the Minister say why it is that his is the only Department of State which insists on counting in the old age pension where State or semi-State pensions are being paid? Is it because the Mini...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Amendment of Army Pensions Acts.

Is that the only amendment the Minister intends to bring in?More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Industrial Relations and Prices.

That proves that what the Labour Party said about the increase in prices was right.More Button

Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966: Allocation of Time.

I want to say on my own behalf and on behalf of the Labour Party that we will not agree to any trickery of any kind.More Button

Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966: First Stage.

That is for the purpose of seeing the Bill and not because we approve of even the First Reading.More Button

Would the Taoiseach not agree it was rather funny to hear the people behind him, who had not seen the Bill any more than we had, hear-hearing his comments?More Button

They should at least have kept their mouths shut until they knew what was in it.More Button

Committee on Finance. - Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966: Allocation of Time.

4.30 p.m. It does not take very long to get these Bills to the Seanad, usually.More Button

Could it be arranged that questions would not be taken until after the conclusion of the debate?More Button

Without interruption for questions.More Button

Committee on Finance. - Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966: Second Stage.

That comment is unworthy of the Taoiseach and he should not have made it.More Button

What has he got to do with it?More Button

The thought going through my mind while the Taoiseach was speaking, and I am sure through the minds of many people here, was that as the Taoiseach knows so much about the wage-fixing machinery in t...More Button

We know about it.More Button

We know of the wand the Taoiseach used in the 1940s during the Emergency and in 1947 and which he also attempted to use in 1961. We have got used to the fairy wand now. That is why we are here, p...More Button

Can he not understand that the one thing, more than anything else, which is likely to prevent a favourable settlement is what is happening in this House now?More Button

The one thing which, on the workers' side, is causing all the trouble is that they will not be threatened into accepting anything, whether or not the Taoiseach likes it. He says that this is the on...More Button

I read the Bill and I listened to the Taoiseach. I should be glad if the Taoiseach would now listen to me. He may find it a bit boring.More Button

The Taoiseach just said in answer to an interruption by Deputy Mullen that in fact this will be used by the ESB. He said they are afraid that if they grant this now, it might in effect be used by ...More Button

Whether you were sure or not, you gave the right answer from your side. You let the cat out of the bag. That is what the Government have in mind. In future, if you cannot get a wage dispute sett...More Button

The Taoiseach can be sure that if he succeeds in getting this Bill through the Dáil and if those people are brought to court, because they are not going to crawl back to work to oblige him, ...More Button

If the Taoiseach knows as much about the ESB negotiations as he claims, he must know that the Board of the ESB and nobody else are responsible for what has happened. We hear an awful lot of talk ab...More Button

The Bill introduced here this afternoon was introduced as a deliberate blackmail attack on the workers of the ESB at present on strike in an attempt to force them back to work. There is no use in ...More Button

The precedent is set in the Bill.More Button

If it is, then I am afraid the Taoiseach is the man who has not read the Bill. At the end of section 9 are set out the penalties. For disobeying an order not to strike, a person on summary convic...More Button

The Taoiseach is one of these people who is a great believer in democracy when it sui himself. It is his own type of democracy? He says all men are equal, only some are more equal than others. I...More Button

We listened to you for half an hour. The Taoiseach and the Minister talked about going slowly. They talked about how slow the Government were in all this and how they desired not to rush into anyt...More Button

The Taoiseach may not be in a position to contradict this, or he may be, but I would like somebody to state it authoritatively. A reply was given here to Deputy O'Connell the week before last. It...More Button

The Minister for Transport and Power wants to say something.More Button

The Minister said that here. The people who are on strike now say there was no reason, good, bad or indifferent, for that closedown, and particularly for a closedown which prevented hospitals from...More Button

I do not know whether the Taoiseach is aware of this or not. If the pickets were never put on, in another fortnight, the Board would have to close down completely. They know that. That is why the...More Button

Nothing happened yesterday.More Button

The Taoiseach does not know what is happening. Yesterday afternoon most of industry was back with full power. Today they are back with full power. The unions were doing everything possible to ha...More Button

Deputy Corish made a point which I think was completely missed by a number of people and for that reason it is worth repeating. The judges got a very high increase in pay a few years ago because i...More Button

I know the Taoiseach did not. The only comment he made was that he was going to order these fellows back to work, whether they were prepared to accept——More Button

What is in this Bill is that if they do not go back to work, they will be fined £25, plus £5 a day, for continuing the offence.More Button

Yes, it is.More Button

Does the Taoiseach want me to read it?More Button

The Minister for Industry and Commerce should have read it.More Button

Section 9 sets out the penalties for disobeying the order. Paragraph (4) reads:More Button

(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £25, together with, in the case of a continuing offence, a further fine not exceeding £5 for every day on which the offence is continu...More Button

(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding £5,000...More Button

plus £100 a day. Is that not in the Bill?More Button

Do not be trying to cod us because we are long enough listening to these little stories. We at least read the Bill, and that is what it says. However, if the Bill is passed and becomes law, it st...More Button

With further reference to your letter of 16th ultimo regarding the hours of building workers... I am to state that your additional representations have been fully considered but it is not proposed ...More Button

The Taoiseach does not know what he is talking about. If we could get these people to the Labour Court, these things could be settled overnight, but there is no appeal against the conditions of em...More Button

The Taoiseach rushed around yesterday evening with his Bill. People outside this House had copies of it. Deputies even of his own Party had no copy and did not know what was in the Bill until the...More Button

We know what it means.More Button

I do not propose to detain the House. The proposal to deal with this Bill in this way is no credit to the Government or to the Taoiseach. During the discussion on the motion when some intelligent...More Button

(Interruptions.)More Button

The efforts being made to bludgeon workers into resuming work will not come off. In my opinion, this is a trial run for further repressive legislation which the Government propose to introduce lat...More Button

If Deputy Lemass thinks that now that “daddy” has gone, he can say something, he is wasting his time. He was afraid to say anything a few moments ago. I would say this, that those in the Fianna ...More Button

Are we to have personal abuse from the Minister for Health allowed by the Chair?More Button

The abuse is coming from the Minister for Health. Just because he is a Minister, he should not be allowed get away with it.More Button

We will not take impudence.More Button

On a point of order, is it to be the accepted thing that a Minister can abuse anybody and a Deputy can be called to order for what has happened?More Button