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An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (Continued)

Tuesday, 9 July 2019

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 985 No. 2

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Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with Thursday's sitting be agreed to."

The Dáil divided: Tá, 63; Níl, 36; Staon, 0.

Níl    Staon
Information on Bobby Aylward  Zoom on Bobby Aylward  Aylward, Bobby. Information on Gerry Adams  Zoom on Gerry Adams  Adams, Gerry.    
Information on Seán Barrett  Zoom on Seán Barrett  Barrett, Seán. Information on Mick Barry  Zoom on Mick Barry  Barry, Mick.    
Information on Colm Brophy  Zoom on Colm Brophy  Brophy, Colm. Information on Richard Boyd Barrett  Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett  Boyd Barrett, Richard.    
Information on Richard Bruton  Zoom on Richard Bruton  Bruton, Richard. Information on John Brady  Zoom on John Brady  Brady, John.    
Information on Peter Burke  Zoom on Peter Burke  Burke, Peter. Information on Thomas P. Broughan  Zoom on Thomas P. Broughan  Broughan, Thomas P.    
Information on Mary Butler  Zoom on Mary Butler  Butler, Mary. Information on Pat Buckley  Zoom on Pat Buckley  Buckley, Pat.    
Information on Catherine Byrne  Zoom on Catherine Byrne  Byrne, Catherine. Information on Joan Burton  Zoom on Joan Burton  Burton, Joan.    
Information on Dara Calleary  Zoom on Dara Calleary  Calleary, Dara. Information on Catherine Connolly  Zoom on Catherine Connolly  Connolly, Catherine.    
Information on Ciarán Cannon  Zoom on Ciarán Cannon  Cannon, Ciarán. Information on Ruth Coppinger  Zoom on Ruth Coppinger  Coppinger, Ruth.    
Information on Joe Carey  Zoom on Joe Carey  Carey, Joe. Information on David Cullinane  Zoom on David Cullinane  Cullinane, David.    
Information on Pat Casey  Zoom on Pat Casey  Casey, Pat. Information on Dessie Ellis  Zoom on Dessie Ellis  Ellis, Dessie.    
Information on Shane Cassells  Zoom on Shane Cassells  Cassells, Shane. Information on Kathleen Funchion  Zoom on Kathleen Funchion  Funchion, Kathleen.    
Information on Michael Collins  Zoom on Michael Collins  Collins, Michael. Information on Seamus Healy  Zoom on Seamus Healy  Healy, Seamus.    
Information on Niall Collins  Zoom on Niall Collins  Collins, Niall. Information on Brendan Howlin  Zoom on Brendan Howlin  Howlin, Brendan.    
Information on Simon Coveney  Zoom on Simon Coveney  Coveney, Simon. Information on Alan Kelly  Zoom on Alan Kelly  Kelly, Alan.    
Information on Michael Creed  Zoom on Michael Creed  Creed, Michael. Information on Gino Kenny  Zoom on Gino Kenny  Kenny, Gino.    
Information on Michael  D'Arcy  Zoom on Michael  D'Arcy  D'Arcy, Michael. Information on Martin Kenny  Zoom on Martin Kenny  Kenny, Martin.    
Information on Regina Doherty  Zoom on Regina Doherty  Doherty, Regina. Information on Catherine Martin  Zoom on Catherine Martin  Martin, Catherine.    
Information on Stephen Donnelly  Zoom on Stephen Donnelly  Donnelly, Stephen. Information on Mary Lou McDonald  Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald  McDonald, Mary Lou.    
Information on Timmy Dooley  Zoom on Timmy Dooley  Dooley, Timmy. Information on Denise Mitchell  Zoom on Denise Mitchell  Mitchell, Denise.    
Information on Andrew Doyle  Zoom on Andrew Doyle  Doyle, Andrew. Information on Imelda Munster  Zoom on Imelda Munster  Munster, Imelda.    
Information on Bernard Durkan  Zoom on Bernard Durkan  Durkan, Bernard J. Information on Catherine Murphy  Zoom on Catherine Murphy  Murphy, Catherine.    
Information on Peter Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Peter Fitzpatrick  Fitzpatrick, Peter. Information on Paul Murphy  Zoom on Paul Murphy  Murphy, Paul.    
Information on Seán Fleming  Zoom on Seán Fleming  Fleming, Sean. Information on Jonathan O'Brien  Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien  O'Brien, Jonathan.    
Information on Brendan Griffin  Zoom on Brendan Griffin  Griffin, Brendan. Information on Jan O'Sullivan  Zoom on Jan O'Sullivan  O'Sullivan, Jan.    
Information on John Halligan  Zoom on John Halligan  Halligan, John. Information on Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin  Zoom on Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin  Ó Caoláin, Caoimhghín.    
Information on Danny Healy-Rae  Zoom on Danny Healy-Rae  Healy-Rae, Danny. Information on Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire  Zoom on Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire  Ó Laoghaire, Donnchadh.    
Information on Michael Healy-Rae  Zoom on Michael Healy-Rae  Healy-Rae, Michael. Information on Aengus Ó Snodaigh  Zoom on Aengus Ó Snodaigh  Ó Snodaigh, Aengus.    
Information on Martin Heydon  Zoom on Martin Heydon  Heydon, Martin. Information on Thomas Pringle  Zoom on Thomas Pringle  Pringle, Thomas.    
Information on Heather Humphreys  Zoom on Heather Humphreys  Humphreys, Heather. Information on Maurice Quinlivan  Zoom on Maurice Quinlivan  Quinlivan, Maurice.    
Information on Paul Kehoe  Zoom on Paul Kehoe  Kehoe, Paul. Information on Brendan Ryan  Zoom on Brendan Ryan  Ryan, Brendan.    
Information on Seán Kyne  Zoom on Seán Kyne  Kyne, Seán. Information on Eamon Ryan  Zoom on Eamon Ryan  Ryan, Eamon.    
Information on John Lahart  Zoom on John Lahart  Lahart, John. Information on Róisín Shortall  Zoom on Róisín Shortall  Shortall, Róisín.    
Information on Josepha Madigan  Zoom on Josepha Madigan  Madigan, Josepha. Information on Bríd Smith  Zoom on Bríd Smith  Smith, Bríd.    
Information on Micheál Martin  Zoom on Micheál Martin  Martin, Micheál. Information on Brian Stanley  Zoom on Brian Stanley  Stanley, Brian.    
Information on Charlie McConalogue  Zoom on Charlie McConalogue  McConalogue, Charlie. Information on Peadar Tóibín  Zoom on Peadar Tóibín  Tóibín, Peadar.    
Information on Helen McEntee  Zoom on Helen McEntee  McEntee, Helen.      
Information on Finian McGrath  Zoom on Finian McGrath  McGrath, Finian.      
Information on Mattie McGrath  Zoom on Mattie McGrath  McGrath, Mattie.      
Information on Tony McLoughlin  Zoom on Tony McLoughlin  McLoughlin, Tony.      
Information on Mary Mitchell O'Connor  Zoom on Mary Mitchell O'Connor  Mitchell O'Connor, Mary.      
Information on Aindrias Moynihan  Zoom on Aindrias Moynihan  Moynihan, Aindrias.      
Information on Margaret Murphy O'Mahony  Zoom on Margaret Murphy O'Mahony  Murphy O'Mahony, Margaret.      
Information on Eugene Murphy  Zoom on Eugene Murphy  Murphy, Eugene.      
Information on Denis Naughten  Zoom on Denis Naughten  Naughten, Denis.      
Information on Tom Neville  Zoom on Tom Neville  Neville, Tom.      
Information on Darragh O'Brien  Zoom on Darragh O'Brien  O'Brien, Darragh.      
Information on Jim O'Callaghan  Zoom on Jim O'Callaghan  O'Callaghan, Jim.      
Information on Kate O'Connell  Zoom on Kate O'Connell  O'Connell, Kate.      
Information on Willie O'Dea  Zoom on Willie O'Dea  O'Dea, Willie.      
Information on Kevin O'Keeffe  Zoom on Kevin O'Keeffe  O'Keeffe, Kevin.      
Information on Fiona O'Loughlin  Zoom on Fiona O'Loughlin  O'Loughlin, Fiona.      
Information on Frank O'Rourke  Zoom on Frank O'Rourke  O'Rourke, Frank.      
Information on Éamon Ó Cuív  Zoom on Éamon Ó Cuív  Ó Cuív, Éamon.      
Information on John Paul Phelan  Zoom on John Paul Phelan  Phelan, John Paul.      
Information on Anne Rabbitte  Zoom on Anne Rabbitte  Rabbitte, Anne.      
Information on Michael Ring  Zoom on Michael Ring  Ring, Michael.      
Information on Shane Ross  Zoom on Shane Ross  Ross, Shane.      
Information on Eamon Scanlon  Zoom on Eamon Scanlon  Scanlon, Eamon.      
Information on Niamh Smyth  Zoom on Niamh Smyth  Smyth, Niamh.      
Information on David Stanton  Zoom on David Stanton  Stanton, David.      
Information on Robert Troy  Zoom on Robert Troy  Troy, Robert.      
Information on Leo Varadkar  Zoom on Leo Varadkar  Varadkar, Leo.      

Tellers: Tá, Deputies Seán Kyne and Tony McLoughlin; Níl, Deputies Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger.

Question declared carried.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin In respect of the programme for Government and the implementation of Sláintecare, I was somewhat taken aback by the Taoiseach's comment that he has read the de Buitléir report on a key recommendation of Sláintecare, which relates to the disentanglement of private care from public care. The fact that it has been decided to go ahead with a private suite in the national children's hospital means that the recommendation is to a large extent dead and buried before it starts. The de Buitléir report belongs to the House because Sláintecare was a product of the House, produced by all parties on an Oireachtas committee. The de Buitléir report is on one of the committee's recommendations. There is no case for the Government to withhold that. That needs to be published this week. It does not have to go before Cabinet. It can go before it in the ordinary way but given that Sláintecare is a product of the House, that report in my view is a product of the House and it should be published. I could take a cynical view and suggest that maybe it will not be published until the Dáil is up because maybe there are some unpalatable proposals in it and the reality of whatever commitment the Government has made to do anything about it.

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar I do not believe there is anything unpalatable-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Publish it.

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar -----in it in the sense that it points out that if public and private practice were to be disentangled it would have to be done over a long period of time, recognising that hundreds of millions of euro would be lost to the public hospital system by removing private fees, that the contracts of thousands of consultants would have to be changed and it could make our recruitment and retention problems more difficult. I will speak to the Minister for Health about it. If there is a good reason not to publish it I do not know what it is but I do need to speak to the Minister for Health.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Publish it then.

Deputy Mary Lou McDonald: Information on Mary Lou McDonald Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald Has the Government made a decision on the legislation necessary for the extension of presidential voting rights to the diaspora and people living in the North? When will the legislation be published? When does the Government propose to establish the commission? Does the Government intend to hold a referendum on this matter in the autumn?

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar The plan is to have the legislation published before the end of the month. That allows us establish the referendum commission immediately and the intention, subject to everything running smoothly in this House and the other House, is to have the referendum in October or November of this year.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin It is reported that An Garda Síochána and the Director of Public Prosecutions, DPP, are developing a system that will allow for the application of an adult caution, rather than a criminal prosecution, for people in possession of drugs for their own use. Apparently this is a recommendation in a Government working group report but this report has not been published and has not been presented to, let alone approved by, the Government. Who is in charge of this initiative? Where does it come from? Under what authority are public agencies developing what is a new policy, apparently without the authority of a formal Government decision or the chance for us all to debate it? The initiative might be very good but we would like to have the opportunity to debate and discuss it in this House. How does that decision sit with the view of Government on criminal justice matters?

Minister of State at the Department of Health (Deputy Catherine Byrne): Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne The working group was very important and I thank those who took part in it. The Ministers for Justice and Equality and for Health and I have reviewed the report and are finalising a memorandum on it to go to Government and it is hoped to take it in the next couple of weeks before the recess.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Why is the policy being decided before the report is given to Government?

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar There is no policy being decided.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne The report was drawn up by a working group and was presented to me and the Ministers for Justice and Equality and Health.

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