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An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (Continued)

Tuesday, 9 July 2019

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 985 No. 2

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(Speaker Continuing)

[Deputy Tony McLoughlin: Information on Tony McLoughlin Zoom on Tony McLoughlin] The proceedings on Committee and Remaining Stages shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 30 minutes by one question which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. No Private Members' Bill shall be taken under Standing Order 140A and no committee report shall be taken under Standing Order 91(2). The Dáil, on its rising, shall adjourn until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 17 September.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher We have heard the announcement of the business for the week. There are three proposals to be put to the House. Are the proposals for dealing with Tuesday's business agreed to?

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy They are not agreed to. We cannot agree to an Order of Business for the final sitting week before the summer recess that does not allow the Dáil to address the scandalous abuse of money messages by the Government. The Government has been acting in a manner that is completely undemocratic and arguably unconstitutional by using the denial of money messages to ensure Bills that have the support of a majority in this House are prevented from progressing. I have a list of over 50 Bills in alphabetical order.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Okay.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The first is the Anti-Evictions Bill 2018.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The Deputy does not have to go through them. I will not let him do so.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The third is the Banded Hours Contract Bill 2016.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher We get the Deputy's point.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The last in alphabetical order is the waste management Bill.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The Deputy does not agree with the Order of Business.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy We know that the Bills on the list will be be joined by others-----

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty The Deputy is not saving the planet with all that paper.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy -----including the No Consent, No Sale Bill 2019 and the Control of Economic Activity (Occupied Territories) Bill 2018.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Will the Deputy, please, listen?

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger This is relevant to the Order of Business.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher I know the point the Deputy is making.

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty The irony is completely lost on him.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher He does not agree with the proposal.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The reasoned response to the Petroleum and Other Minerals Development (Amendment) (Climate Emergency Measures) Bill 2018 which is extremely important gives the game away.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher We will deal with it.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The content of the reasoned response is not about money.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There is no need for an explanation.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The Government thinks it has an executive veto which it does not have.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There is no need for an explanation.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy It is using that executive veto.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Will the Deputy, please, resume his seat?

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy Time needs to be provided this week to amend Standing Orders.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There are other Members who want to use the Order of Business also.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy No problem.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There is a problem.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy We have proposed a motion to amend Standing Orders in a way that would resolve this issue.

Deputy Charles Flanagan: Information on Charles Flanagan Zoom on Charles Flanagan This is a stunt.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy There are other proposals-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher I will hear from your-----

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy -----for which time needs to be allocated.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher I will be putting it to the House.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy We need to have that discussion this week.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The House will decide.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy We need to stop this veto.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The Business Committee makes recommendations and the House decides.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger A Leas-Cheann Comhairle-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No, the Deputy has been represented. I ask Deputy Mattie McGrath to be very short.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath The Rural Independent Group is not happy with the proposal to consider the establishment of a citizens' assembly today without debate.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger A Leas-Cheann Comhairle-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No, one for each group.

Deputy Eamon Ryan: Information on Eamon Ryan Zoom on Eamon Ryan I support Deputy Paul Murphy. The Government has treated the Order of Business in this House in a way that is completely undemocratic. The Deputy has cited the example of the Petroleum and Other Minerals Development (Amendment) (Climate Emergency Measures) Bill 2018 which is critical. The Government has used money messages at the end of a lengthy process which involved this House voting to proceed to Committee Stage.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Okay. The Deputy does not have to expand.

Deputy Eamon Ryan: Information on Eamon Ryan Zoom on Eamon Ryan The Government's approach to the climate emergency Bill is the worst and most egregious example.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Hear, hear.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Deputy Eamon Ryan does not have to expand.

Deputy Eamon Ryan: Information on Eamon Ryan Zoom on Eamon Ryan It is absolutely appropriate to stand up for the rights of this House.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Members are allowed to put their case.

Deputy Eamon Ryan: Information on Eamon Ryan Zoom on Eamon Ryan The Government has interfered in the ordering of legislation in an unconstitutional way.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The Deputy has had his chance.

Deputy Eamon Ryan: Information on Eamon Ryan Zoom on Eamon Ryan It is fully appropriate that this be a key issue for consideration before we adjourn for the summer.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Are the proposals with which we are dealing-----

Deputy Bríd Smith: Information on Bríd Smith Zoom on Bríd Smith I am sorry, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No. The Deputy was represented. I took one Deputy from each group. Are the proposals for dealing with Tuesday's business agreed to?

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy Can we get an answer from the Government?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Does the Chief Whip wish to speak?

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Seán Kyne): Information on Seán Kyne Zoom on Seán Kyne We are in the last week. The amount of business we are trying to get through makes it one of the busiest weeks of the year. We have tried to comply with all of the requests that have come in in recent days. We are facilitating a question and answer session on the Mercosur deal. We are setting aside time for a debate on Mr. Justice O'Neill's report. The Ceann Comhairle submitted the request that came to the Business Committee with regard to money messages to the Committee on Procedure. He expects to receive a report on the matter in the autumn.

Deputy Bríd Smith: Information on Bríd Smith Zoom on Bríd Smith You cannot end the business of the parliamentary year on such an anti-democratic note.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher I am putting the question.

Deputy Bríd Smith: Information on Bríd Smith Zoom on Bríd Smith We should be able to put the motion before the House without debate.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher All of this can be discussed at the Business Committee.

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty This is a stunt.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy A Cheann Comhairle, the answer we have heard from the Government is not acceptable.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No. The Deputy got his response.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy It is not acceptable.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Are the proposals for-----

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The Government is riding roughshod over the democratic rights of the Dáil.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Are the proposals for dealing-----

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy It is using a procedure in Standing Orders that was clearly not meant for the purposes for which it is being used.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Please, Deputy. Are the proposals for dealing with Tuesday's business agreed to?

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy The Government is refusing to deal with its unconstitutional actions.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Iad siúd atá ina bhfabhar, abraidís "Tá".

Deputies: Tá.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy They are not agreed to.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Iad siúd atá ina gcoinne, abraidís "Níl".

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger A Leas-Cheann Comhairle-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Sílim go bhfuil an ceist rite.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy They are not agreed to.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger You are not allowing us to make the case.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Is the business agreed to?

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Yes.

Deputy Paul Murphy: Information on Paul Murphy Zoom on Paul Murphy Not agreed.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Not agreed.


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