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 Header Item Order of Business (Continued)
 Header Item Petroleum and Other Minerals Development (Amendment) Bill 2016: First Stage
 Header Item Membership of the Committee on Procedure and Privileges and the Committee of Selection: Motion
 Header Item Election of Leas-Cheann Comhairle

Thursday, 2 June 2016

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 911 No. 3

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(Speaker Continuing)

[The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald] That must happen in the coming weeks. As the Taoiseach stated yesterday on the Order of Business, he expects some revisions to the Estimates that were originally published but that will be a matter for the House in the near future. The Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform will undoubtedly inform the House on the precise timetable.

Deputy Gerry Adams: Information on Gerry Adams Zoom on Gerry Adams I asked-----

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No, I am sorry. We need-----

Deputy Gerry Adams: Information on Gerry Adams Zoom on Gerry Adams The Tánaiste did not answer my question. I asked whether she could confirm that the HSE was spending more than was allocated for 2016. Does she expect a need for a supplementary health budget?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Very briefly, please.

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald It is clear that there are major demands on the health service. This issue will be addressed in the coming Estimates.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Following up on the issue of the Revised Estimates, I am getting worried that we are half way through the year and have not seen them. In tandem with the Revised Estimate Volume, will we have a revised stability programme update, SPU, as we are required to have under the Stability and Growth Pact? When will the revised SPU be prepared and submitted to the European Commission and will there be an alteration in the expenditure benchmark from the one that was set out in the April SPU that was submitted to and endorsed by the Commission?

Will the Tánaiste join me in calling on the then leadership of the IRA who directed the 1974 Birmingham bombing campaign to co-operate with the inquest that was opened yesterday by the Birmingham coroner?

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy The Deputy should ask him himself.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Will the Tánaiste add her voice to that of Ms Julie Hambleton, whose sister Maxine was murdered in the bombings? Yesterday, she stated that those who had any level of humanity or moral compass should come forward. Would this not be the collective will of the House?

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald Let me address the question of the Birmingham bombings first. Obviously, there is an ongoing legal process in another jurisdiction. As Deputies will be aware, the senior coroner has ruled to resume the inquest into the bombings. This is a matter of the most serious and utmost concern for the families of the people killed in the Birmingham bombings in 1974. The reports on the Birmingham pub bombings remind us of the appalling violence inflicted during the Troubles, not just in Northern Ireland. As we heard yesterday, the pain and hurt of the victims' families and the survivors continues to this day. I understand the sentiment behind Deputy Brendan Howlin's comments. We make clear in the new programme for Government our commitment as a co-guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement to building on the substantial progress that has already been made and supporting the consolidation of peace in Northern Ireland so as to ensure we never return to the days of violence.

I am aware of the media reports that new information was submitted to the senior coroner during the process of considering whether to resume the Birmingham pub bombings inquest. She has decided to resume the inquest. It is not appropriate for me to comment further on that ongoing process, as it relates to another jurisdiction.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin But we should call on people with information to come forward.

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald Of course. I understand the Deputy's call.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin The former director of intelligence was on the news on RTE last night. It was extraordinary to watch.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl We are not getting into a debate on this issue.

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald I understand the sentiment behind what Deputy Brendan Howlin stated. Every Deputy in the House would support it.

The Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform will address the issues that Deputy Brendan Howlin raised about the Estimates process. There will be ample opportunity in the House, although the business committee must agree the exact process to be followed in the near future. Yesterday, the Cabinet discussed the report that was due. It will be-----

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Will there be an altered SPU?

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald That remains to be seen. I am sure that the Ministers for Public Expenditure and Reform and Finance will address that issue in the context of the Revised Estimates.

Deputy Catherine Murphy: Information on Catherine Murphy Zoom on Catherine Murphy I welcome the programme for Government's inclusion of the opening of the cystic fibrosis unit in Beaumont Hospital. It has already been built and just needs to be staffed and so on, but the key aim is to try to keep people out of hospital. I refer to the drug Orkambi. Will the Tánaiste share the information on patient advocacy with the Dáil instead of just Deputy Micheál Martin?

The Tánaiste: Information on Frances Fitzgerald Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald Yes.

Deputy Catherine Murphy: Information on Catherine Murphy Zoom on Catherine Murphy Patients attending for appointments are assisted by the HSE with their travel arrangements, but I have been told by my constituents that this service has been stopped on the basis of cost. Is this move universal or local? Could it be remedied via the Estimates-----

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Time has concluded.

Deputy Catherine Murphy: Information on Catherine Murphy Zoom on Catherine Murphy -----or has a unilateral approach been taken to ceasing the arrangement?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I must ask the Tánaiste to correspond with the Deputy to address the question, as we no longer have time remaining.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin How much time do we have on Thursdays?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl We have the time allowed, 20 minutes, and it is-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Is that the time available under the 2007 Standing Orders?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Yes.

Deputy Michael Healy-Rae: Information on Michael Healy-Rae Zoom on Michael Healy-Rae It will have to be extended.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I do not write the rules. I simply implement them.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin I know that.

Deputy Willie O'Dea: Information on Willie O'Dea Zoom on Willie O'Dea That is because we would never get it in.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl We will move on to a Private Members' Bill.

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy May I speak before we-----

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No, the Deputy may not.

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy I want to ask for the Ceann Comhairle's guidance and assistance.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No, please. There is no-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin He is a new Member, in fairness.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I am delighted that a new Member wants to raise a matter, but-----

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy I want the Ceann Comhairle's assistance.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl On what?

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy The Ceann Comhairle disallowed a question.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl That is inappropriate at this point. The Deputy should come and talk to me in my office.

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy It is a public health issue relating to a boil water notice in my constituency.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Will the Deputy, please, resume his seat?

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy It is a serious issue.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl It is very unlike the Deputy to be unruly.

Deputy Eugene Murphy: Information on Eugene Murphy Zoom on Eugene Murphy Will the Ceann Comhairle see me in his office?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl The Deputy should come and see me in my office.

(Interruptions).

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl That is not a Mae West.

Deputy Paul Kehoe: Information on Paul Kehoe Zoom on Paul Kehoe Twenty lines.

Deputy Heather Humphreys: Information on Heather Humphreys Zoom on Heather Humphreys One hundred lines.

Deputy Patrick O'Donovan: Information on Patrick O'Donovan Zoom on Patrick O'Donovan Detention.

Petroleum and Other Minerals Development (Amendment) Bill 2016: First Stage

Deputy Martin Kenny: Information on Martin Kenny Zoom on Martin Kenny I move:

That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Petroleum and Other Minerals Development Act 1960 to ban unconventional gas exploration and extraction, provide for social clauses and public consultation on the granting of leases and ensure greater accountability through initiating an annual review of the lease by an Oireachtas Joint Committee.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Is the Bill opposed?

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Regina Doherty): Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty No.

  Question put and agreed to.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Since this is a Private Members' Bill, Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.

Deputy Martin Kenny: Information on Martin Kenny Zoom on Martin Kenny I move: "That the Bill be taken in Private Members' time."

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy On a point of order, while we are discussing Private Members' Bills, may I raise the issue of Private Members' motions-----

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No.

Deputy Bríd Smith: Information on Bríd Smith Zoom on Bríd Smith That is because the Government lost.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl This is not in order.

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy ----- or, more specifically, the futility of voting on such motions, as was demonstrated last night, that succeed but are not worth the paper on which they are written?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl That is absolutely not in order at this stage. Will the Deputy, please, resume his seat?

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy There is no point in voting on them.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Fair enough.

Deputy Bríd Smith: Information on Bríd Smith Zoom on Bríd Smith Especially if the Government loses.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Will Deputy John Deasy, please, resume his seat?

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin When the House-----

(Interruptions).

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley That is one more for us.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I am quite happy to have a conversation with Deputy John Deasy about that matter.

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley A simple majority.

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy I am not talking about the substance of the-----

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin He is being irrelevant.

Deputy John Deasy: Information on John Deasy Zoom on John Deasy It should have some relevance to legislating in Parliament.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Will the Deputy, please, resume his seat?

    Question put and agreed to.

Membership of the Committee on Procedure and Privileges and the Committee of Selection: Motion

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Regina Doherty): Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty I move:

That--
(1) two members in total may be nominated to the Committee of Selection by the Government (notwithstanding the Order of the Dáil of 31st May 2016, which provided for Fine Gael to appoint one member to the Committee); and

(2) notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 107(4) and the Order of the Dáil of 19th May 2016, the Committee on Procedure and Privileges shall consist of the Ceann Comhairle, who ex officio shall be Chairman and who shall have only one vote, and 14 other members, of whom four shall be appointed by the Government, three by Fianna Fáil, two by Sinn Féin, one by the Labour Party, one by the Anti-Austerity Alliance-People Before Profit, one by Independents4Change, one by the Rural Alliance group, and one by the Social Democrats-Green Party group. Six shall constitute a quorum, and the Ceann Comhairle shall announce the names of the members appointed for the information of the Dáil on the first sitting day following their appointment.

  Question put and agreed to.

Election of Leas-Cheann Comhairle

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Four proposals have been received. I call on Deputy Gerry Adams or any Deputy representing Sinn Féin to move motion No. 1, nomination of Deputy Seán Crowe.

Deputy Gerry Adams: Information on Gerry Adams Zoom on Gerry Adams I move:

That Deputy Seán Crowe be elected Leas-Cheann Comhairle.

Molaim an Teachta Seán Crowe mar Leas-Cheann Comhairle. Tá mé lánsásta go mbeadh Seán in ann dualgais na hoifige sin a chomhlíonadh i ngach slí agus i slí ina mbeadh baill na Dála seo ina iomláine sásta. Tá Seán ina Theachta le deich mbliana anuas agus tá a fhios agam go bhfuil sé lán-ábalta an jab a dhéanamh.


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