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Committee on Finance. - Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966: Allocation of Time.

Tuesday, 7 June 1966

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 223 No. 1

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Debate resumed on the following motion:

That in the case of the Electricity (Special Provisions) Bill, 1966, the proceedings on the five stages thereof [89] and on the Money Resolution in Committee on Finance and on Report in connection therewith, if not previously brought to a conclusion shall be brought to a conclusion at 10.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 7th June, 1966, by putting from the Chair forthwith the Questions necessary to bring them to a conclusion: Provided that after the said hour on the said day

(i) a Question shall not be put on any amendment (save an amendment set down by a member of the Government, and the Question on any such amendment shall be in the form, That the amendment be made), nor on any motion other than a motion necessary to bring the proceedings forthwith to a conclusion and then only when moved by a member of the Government and

(ii) the Question to be put to bring the proceedings in Committee on the Bill to a conclusion shall be, That Sections (or Sections, as amended, if amendments have been made) stand part of and that the Title be the Title of the Bill.

—(Parliamentary Secretary to the Taoiseach).

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave May I intervene with a suggestion at this stage? As I understand it, the intention is that the Seanad will meet tomorrow morning at 10.30. In order to facilitate a full discussion of the Bill, I would suggest that, if necessary, we continue discussion until 10 a.m. and conclude not later than 10 a.m. and at that stage, if the discussion is not concluded, let it be concluded in time for the Seanad to take it. That will enable, I suggest, adequate time to be made available to the House for a discussion of it. I think we are all anxious that the matter should be adequately and properly discussed. In view of the time that has elapsed since the motion was originally introduced, I would suggest that, if necessary, we continue until 10 a.m. and then let the Bill go to the Seanad. I know that that may involve some physical strain on the Minister for Industry and Commerce.

[90]Mr. Corish: Information on Brendan Corish Zoom on Brendan Corish It is clear to us that if this were put to a vote, the vast majority of the Members of the House would vote for a guillotine at 10.30 tonight. The Taoiseach knows our attitude—the same as it was in 1961. We want a free vote. We would be prepared to continue discussion until 10.30 tonight and resume at 10.30 a.m. until 5.00 p.m. tomorrow.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass The trouble is that the Seanad will be meeting, I presume, from 10.30 a.m. to 5 p.m. I am sure the Seanad would agree to sit after 5 p.m. The Bill would have to reach them before 5 p.m. Would the Deputy agree to 3 p.m. tomorrow?

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully 4.30 p.m. It does not take very long to get these Bills to the Seanad, usually.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass 3.30 p.m. I am sure it would be possible to arrange.

Mr. Dillon: Information on James Matthew Dillon Zoom on James Matthew Dillon Make it 4 p.m.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass I will see about getting agreement in the Seanad to sit late if we agree to 4 p.m.

Mr. Corish: Information on Brendan Corish Zoom on Brendan Corish This debate will continue until what time?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass 4 p.m.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave Does it continue through the night?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass It stops at 10.30 p.m. tonight and resumes at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully Could it be arranged that questions would not be taken until after the conclusion of the debate?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass Questions could be taken at 4 p.m.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Patrick Hogan Zoom on Patrick Hogan I do not understand.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave The position, as I understand it, is that we discuss this Bill until 10.30 tonight and, if not finished—it is unlikely that it will be finished—it will be resumed at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow and concluded not later than 4 p.m. tomorrow.

[91]The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass In other words, we substitute “4 p.m. on Wednesday, 8th” for “10.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 7th”.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully Without interruption for questions.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Patrick Hogan Zoom on Patrick Hogan How are we going to discuss the motion?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass The motion will not be discussed. It can be agreed or voted on on that basis.

Mr. O'Leary: If a settlement is reached and negotiations are going on, will the Government reconsider?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass If a settlement is reached, the Bill will not become effective. The Bill becomes effective only if there is complete disruption of the electricity supply. The motion, as I understand, is now an agreed motion, subject to “4 p.m. on Wednesday, 8th” being substituted for “10.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 7th” in the motion.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave The date is changed.

Mr. Norton: Information on Patrick Norton Zoom on Patrick Norton No interruption for questions.

Mr. Sweetman: Information on Gerard Sweetman Zoom on Gerard Sweetman You might want another order for that.

Mr. S. Dunne: Information on Seán Dunne Zoom on Seán Dunne Lest there be any misapprehension in this calamity which has developed, the final vote will be taken at 4 p.m. That does not at all imply that there will not be strenuous opposition to this Bill.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass I appreciate that. The motion is agreed on the basis of that change.

Mr. Sweetman: Information on Gerard Sweetman Zoom on Gerard Sweetman It is terrible the way we have to do the Government's work.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass This is the work of the Dáil.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Patrick Hogan Zoom on Patrick Hogan The amended motion is agreed to.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.


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