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 Header Item Industrial Disputes (Continued)
 Header Item Message from Select Committee
 Header Item Estimates for Public Services 2019: Message from Select Committee

Thursday, 28 February 2019

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 980 No. 3

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[Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Information on Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin Zoom on Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin] What are we talking about? Is it the case that the Minister is not prepared to instruct the HSE, as he should do, to recognise the PNA and its NASRA branch as a representative body for the ambulance personnel who are members of that branch, and that there are perhaps other influences or pressures that would prevent that action happening? That is a very serious situation and that is what is implicit in this document the Minister of State has read into the record. It is incumbent on the other named entities to clarify their position. When I stood with the PNA NASRA branch workers on their strike on 15 February, I was very encouraged by the fact they had colleagues from SIPTU there with them, shoulder to shoulder, workers together.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne What I read was the script I was given. To answer Deputy Barry's questions, I have not read it, like I have not read a lot of the documents that are sitting on my table. I gradually go through them as best I can. I have not read it and I will not say here that I read something I did not read.

Deputy Mick Barry: Information on Mick Barry Zoom on Mick Barry The Minister of State should read it.

Deputy Joan Collins: Information on Joan Collins Zoom on Joan Collins I have two copies. I can leave them with her.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne I will read it. I will take it on advice from Deputies Barry and Collins and I will read it. I do not need to be lectured.

  Deputy Collins asked that I would ask the Minister, Deputy Harris, to consider a cross-party meeting and I will do that tomorrow. I take on board the points raised around the HSE, understaffing and whether people have a right to join the trade union of their choice.

  The Minister, Deputy Harris, has expressed his disappointment that the PNA has decided to take this industrial action. The Department of Health and the HSE are exploring options to sort out this strike.

Deputy Mick Barry: Information on Mick Barry Zoom on Mick Barry They would need to explore them fairly quick.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne I do not know if I can say much more than that. The Minister, Deputy Harris, is keen to see the end of this dispute. As I said, officials from the Department of Health met representatives of the HSE and the management of the national service to explore possible options for the strike to be called off. However, the Minister remains confident that a solution can be found. It is incumbent on me to say that. There is always room for solutions and we should be able to negotiate and to sit with people and talk to them.

Deputy Mick Barry: Information on Mick Barry Zoom on Mick Barry That is the point. They should be able-----

Acting Chairman (Deputy Bernard J. Durkan): Information on Bernard Durkan Zoom on Bernard Durkan Order, please.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne I am not going to be brought in here to read a statement and then be abused by Deputy Barry or anybody else as to whether I read a document or not.

Deputy Mick Barry: Information on Mick Barry Zoom on Mick Barry It is the ambulance paramedics who are being abused.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Bernard J. Durkan): Information on Bernard Durkan Zoom on Bernard Durkan The Deputy has had his say.

Deputy Catherine Byrne: Information on Catherine Byrne Zoom on Catherine Byrne I want to make it clear to Deputy Barry that I have not read it and I am not going to lie and say I did. However, I will look at it and inform myself. Prior to taking this Topical Issue matter, I had not read it and I am making that clear to the Deputy. I could not answer the Deputy in the opening statement because it was not part of the opening statement. I answered him in my reply. I hope he takes that fact on board. He now knows I have not read it.

Message from Select Committee

Acting Chairman (Deputy Bernard J. Durkan): Information on Bernard Durkan Zoom on Bernard Durkan The Select Committee on Employment Affairs and Social Protection has completed its consideration of the Civil Registration Bill 2019 and has made no amendments thereto.

Estimates for Public Services 2019: Message from Select Committee

Acting Chairman (Deputy Bernard J. Durkan): Information on Bernard Durkan Zoom on Bernard Durkan The Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach has completed its consideration of the following Revised Estimates for public services for the service of the year ending 31 December 2019 - Votes 1 to 6, inclusive.

  The Dáil adjourned at 7.55 p.m. until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 5 March 2019.


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