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Deputy Shane Ross:   I thank the Deputy. The scenario stemming from Government Members' scripts - they have nearly all had scripts, although not Deputy O'Donnell and a few others - has been one of painting default, that bogey word, as something we cannot possibly countenance. Luckily for the Government, Government Deputies have in recent times all discovered from their press office the country of Argentina and will all come out with four or five lines about how we do not want Ireland to be another Argentina. None of them seems to want to mention Iceland or Russia and what an embarrassment it is that there is Greece which, to my knowledge, has defaulted four or five times already and is still having money pumped into by the ECB. It has done far better out of its attitude, of which I do not approve, than the Irish Government which has been so humiliated by the deal it is about to announce.
Deputy Áine Collins: Does the Deputy want to go and live in Greece?
Deputy Shane Ross: The consequences of what is happening-----
(Interruptions).
Deputy Mattie McGrath: The Deputy should go back to Limerick to look after his constituency.
(Interruptions).
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Can we have order, please?
Deputy Shane Ross: We have the Russian, Icelandic and Greek experience. The Minister of State may well laugh, but his script last night was laughable. He had not even read it in advance.
Deputy Brian Hayes: The Deputy is pantomime at its best.
Deputy Shane Ross: The Minister of State read it like a baby reading for the first time. It was extraordinary. He read it like a man who did not understand what he was saying.
Deputy Brian Hayes: The Deputy is hilarious.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Can we have some order, please?
Deputy Shane Ross: It is great to hear the Minister of State say something unscripted for a change. He should stand up and make a speech which he has made up himself.
Deputy Brian Hayes: Where is Seanie now?
Deputy Shane Ross: Creditors forgive countries which default very fast. Creditors forgave Russia and Iceland very fast.
Deputy Brian Hayes: They were all in the eurozone, were they?
Deputy Shane Ross: Iceland and Russia, after defaulting, were back into the money markets very fast.
Deputy Brian Hayes: This is illiteracy.
Deputy Shane Ross: It may well be the case that it is quicker and cleaner.
Deputy Brian Hayes: We are five years into it.
Deputy Shane Ross: No, it is not five years in Russia's case.
Deputy Brian Hayes: It is in our case.
Deputy Shane Ross: It is quicker and cleaner to wipe off the debt as part of a negotiated deal than it is to continue with this humiliating policy which will dump the debt on our grandchildren to the shame of the Government.
Deputy Patrick O'Donovan: The Deputies would be far better trying to save Garda stations.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Before I put the question, I call on the Minister of State, Deputy Paul Kehoe, to move a motion. Is that agreed that we adjourn the debate?
Deputy Shane Ross: No, it is not.
Deputy Mattie McGrath: It is not agreed.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): The question is, "That the motion be agreed to." The question is carried.
Deputy Shane Ross: Vótail.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Is it agreed?
Deputy Mattie McGrath: No, it is not.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): We have agreed to adjourn the debate to allow the Minister of State-----
Deputy Shane Ross: No, we have not agreed.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): It is a procedural motion.
Deputy Mattie McGrath: We did not agree to it.
Deputy Paul Kehoe: It is a procedural matter.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Yes, it is.
Deputy Mattie McGrath: Why did the Acting Chairman put the question?
Deputy Paul Kehoe: I advise the Members opposite that it is a procedural matter for the House.
Deputy Mattie McGrath: Why did the Chair put the question?
Deputy Catherine Murphy: Is it the motion that was included in the journal?
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Can we have some order, please?
Debate adjourned.
Business of Dáil: Motion
Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Paul Kehoe): I move:
That, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, the Dáil shall late tonight, the sitting shall be suspended at the conclusion of Private Members' business and reconvene at 10.30 p.m. to transact the business which shall be ordered at that time.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Is that agreed?
No.
Question put:
The Dáil divided: Tá, 86; Níl, 44.
| Tá |
Níl |
| Bannon, James. |
Adams, Gerry. |
| Bruton, Richard. |
Boyd Barrett, Richard. |
| Burton, Joan. |
Broughan, Thomas P. |
| Butler, Ray. |
Collins, Joan. |
| Buttimer, Jerry. |
Colreavy, Michael. |
| Byrne, Catherine. |
Daly, Clare. |
| Byrne, Eric. |
Doherty, Pearse. |
| Carey, Joe. |
Donnelly, Stephen S. |
| Coffey, Paudie. |
Ellis, Dessie. |
| Collins, Áine. |
Ferris, Martin. |
| Conaghan, Michael. |
Flanagan, Luke 'Ming'. |
| Conlan, Seán. |
Fleming, Tom. |
| Connaughton, Paul J. |
Grealish, Noel. |
| Conway, Ciara. |
Halligan, John. |
| Coonan, Noel. |
Healy, Seamus. |
| Costello, Joe. |
Healy-Rae, Michael. |
| Coveney, Simon. |
Higgins, Joe. |
| Creed, Michael. |
Kirk, Seamus. |
| Daly, Jim. |
Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig. |
| Deenihan, Jimmy. |
McConalogue, Charlie. |
| Deering, Pat. |
McDonald, Mary Lou. |
| Dowds, Robert. |
McGrath, Finian. |
| Doyle, Andrew. |
McGrath, Mattie. |
| Durkan, Bernard J. |
McGrath, Michael. |
| English, Damien. |
McGuinness, John. |
| Farrell, Alan. |
McLellan, Sandra. |
| Feighan, Frank. |
Martin, Micheál. |
| Ferris, Anne. |
Moynihan, Michael. |
| Fitzgerald, Frances. |
Murphy, Catherine. |
| Fitzpatrick, Peter. |
Nulty, Patrick. |
| Flanagan, Charles. |
Ó Caoláin, Caoimhghín. |
| Flanagan, Terence. |
Ó Cuív, Éamon. |
| Gilmore, Eamon. |
Ó Fearghaíl, Seán. |
| Griffin, Brendan. |
Ó Snodaigh, Aengus. |
| Hannigan, Dominic. |
O'Brien, Jonathan. |
| Harrington, Noel. |
O'Sullivan, Maureen. |
| Harris, Simon. |
Pringle, Thomas. |
| Hayes, Brian. |
Ross, Shane. |
| Hayes, Tom. |
Shortall, Róisín. |
| Heydon, Martin. |
Smith, Brendan. |
| Hogan, Phil. |
Stanley, Brian. |
| Howlin, Brendan. |
Tóibín, Peadar. |
| Humphreys, Heather. |
Troy, Robert. |
| Humphreys, Kevin. |
Wallace, Mick. |
| Keating, Derek. |
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| Kehoe, Paul. |
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| Kelly, Alan. |
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| Kenny, Enda. |
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| Kenny, Seán. |
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| Kyne, Seán. |
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| Lawlor, Anthony. |
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| Lowry, Michael. |
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| Lynch, Ciarán. |
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| McCarthy, Michael. |
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| McGinley, Dinny. |
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| McHugh, Joe. |
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| McLoughlin, Tony. |
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| McNamara, Michael. |
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| Mitchell, Olivia. |
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| Mitchell O'Connor, Mary. |
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| Murphy, Dara. |
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| Murphy, Eoghan. |
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| Nash, Gerald. |
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| Neville, Dan. |
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| Nolan, Derek. |
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| O'Donnell, Kieran. |
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| O'Donovan, Patrick. |
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| O'Dowd, Fergus. |
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| O'Mahony, John. |
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| O'Reilly, Joe. |
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| O'Sullivan, Jan. |
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| Phelan, Ann. |
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| Phelan, John Paul. |
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| Rabbitte, Pat. |
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| Reilly, James. |
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| Ryan, Brendan. |
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| Shatter, Alan. |
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| Spring, Arthur. |
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| Stagg, Emmet. |
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| Stanton, David. |
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| Timmins, Billy. |
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| Twomey, Liam. |
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| Varadkar, Leo. |
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| Wall, Jack. |
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| Walsh, Brian. |
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| White, Alex. |
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Tellers: Tá, Deputies Paul Kehoe and Emmet Stagg; Níl, Deputies Catherine Murphy and John Halligan.
Question declared carried.
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