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 Header Item Promissory Notes: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members] (Continued)
 Header Item Business of Dáil: Motion

Wednesday, 6 February 2013

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 791 No. 2

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Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross I thank the Deputy. The scenario stemming from Government Members' scripts - they have nearly all had scripts, although not Deputy O'Donnell and a few others - has been one of painting default, that bogey word, as something we cannot possibly countenance. Luckily for the Government, Government Deputies have in recent times all discovered from their press office the country of Argentina and will all come out with four or five lines about how we do not want Ireland to be another Argentina. None of them seems to want to mention Iceland or Russia and what an embarrassment it is that there is Greece which, to my knowledge, has defaulted four or five times already and is still having money pumped into by the ECB. It has done far better out of its attitude, of which I do not approve, than the Irish Government which has been so humiliated by the deal it is about to announce.

Deputy Áine Collins: Information on Áine Collins Zoom on Áine Collins Does the Deputy want to go and live in Greece?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross The consequences of what is happening-----

(Interruptions).

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath The Deputy should go back to Limerick to look after his constituency.

(Interruptions).

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Can we have order, please?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross We have the Russian, Icelandic and Greek experience. The Minister of State may well laugh, but his script last night was laughable. He had not even read it in advance.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes The Deputy is pantomime at its best.

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross The Minister of State read it like a baby reading for the first time. It was extraordinary. He read it like a man who did not understand what he was saying.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes The Deputy is hilarious.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Can we have some order, please?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross It is great to hear the Minister of State say something unscripted for a change. He should stand up and make a speech which he has made up himself.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes Where is Seanie now?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross Creditors forgive countries which default very fast. Creditors forgave Russia and Iceland very fast.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes They were all in the eurozone, were they?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross Iceland and Russia, after defaulting, were back into the money markets very fast.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes This is illiteracy.

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross It may well be the case that it is quicker and cleaner.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes We are five years into it.

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross No, it is not five years in Russia's case.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes It is in our case.

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross It is quicker and cleaner to wipe off the debt as part of a negotiated deal than it is to continue with this humiliating policy which will dump the debt on our grandchildren to the shame of the Government.

Deputy Patrick O'Donovan: Information on Patrick O'Donovan Zoom on Patrick O'Donovan The Deputies would be far better trying to save Garda stations.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Before I put the question, I call on the Minister of State, Deputy Paul Kehoe, to move a motion. Is that agreed that we adjourn the debate?

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross No, it is not.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath It is not agreed.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny The question is, "That the motion be agreed to." The question is carried.

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross Vótail.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Is it agreed?

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath No, it is not.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny We have agreed to adjourn the debate to allow the Minister of State-----

Deputy Shane Ross: Information on Shane P.N. Ross Zoom on Shane P.N. Ross No, we have not agreed.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny It is a procedural motion.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath We did not agree to it.

Deputy Paul Kehoe: Information on Paul Kehoe Zoom on Paul Kehoe It is a procedural matter.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Yes, it is.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Why did the Acting Chairman put the question?

Deputy Paul Kehoe: Information on Paul Kehoe Zoom on Paul Kehoe I advise the Members opposite that it is a procedural matter for the House.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Why did the Chair put the question?

Deputy Catherine Murphy: Information on Catherine Murphy Zoom on Catherine Murphy Is it the motion that was included in the journal?

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Can we have some order, please?

Debate adjourned.

Business of Dáil: Motion

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Paul Kehoe): Information on Paul Kehoe Zoom on Paul Kehoe I move:

That, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, the Dáil shall late tonight, the sitting shall be suspended at the conclusion of Private Members' business and reconvene at 10.30 p.m. to transact the business which shall be ordered at that time.

Acting Chairman (Deputy Seán Kenny): Information on Seán Kenny Zoom on Seán Kenny Is that agreed?

No.

Question put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 86; Níl, 44.

Níl
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Information on Joan Burton  Zoom on Joan Burton  Burton, Joan. Information on Thomas P. Broughan  Zoom on Thomas P. Broughan  Broughan, Thomas P.
Information on Ray Butler  Zoom on Ray Butler  Butler, Ray. Information on Joan Collins  Zoom on Joan Collins  Collins, Joan.
Information on Jerry Buttimer  Zoom on Jerry Buttimer  Buttimer, Jerry. Information on Michael Colreavy  Zoom on Michael Colreavy  Colreavy, Michael.
Information on Catherine Byrne  Zoom on Catherine Byrne  Byrne, Catherine. Information on Clare Daly  Zoom on Clare Daly  Daly, Clare.
Information on Eric J. Byrne  Zoom on Eric J. Byrne  Byrne, Eric. Information on Pearse Doherty  Zoom on Pearse Doherty  Doherty, Pearse.
Information on Joe Carey  Zoom on Joe Carey  Carey, Joe. Information on Stephen Donnelly  Zoom on Stephen Donnelly  Donnelly, Stephen S.
Information on Paudie Coffey  Zoom on Paudie Coffey  Coffey, Paudie. Information on Dessie Ellis  Zoom on Dessie Ellis  Ellis, Dessie.
Information on Áine Collins  Zoom on Áine Collins  Collins, Áine. Information on Martin Ferris  Zoom on Martin Ferris  Ferris, Martin.
Information on Michael Conaghan  Zoom on Michael Conaghan  Conaghan, Michael. Information on Luke 'Ming' Flanagan  Zoom on Luke 'Ming' Flanagan  Flanagan, Luke 'Ming'.
Information on Sean Conlan  Zoom on Sean Conlan  Conlan, Seán. Information on Tom Fleming  Zoom on Tom Fleming  Fleming, Tom.
Information on Paul Connaughton  Zoom on Paul Connaughton  Connaughton, Paul J. Information on Noel Grealish  Zoom on Noel Grealish  Grealish, Noel.
Information on Ciara Conway  Zoom on Ciara Conway  Conway, Ciara. Information on John Halligan  Zoom on John Halligan  Halligan, John.
Information on Noel Coonan  Zoom on Noel Coonan  Coonan, Noel. Information on Seamus Healy  Zoom on Seamus Healy  Healy, Seamus.
Information on Joe Costello  Zoom on Joe Costello  Costello, Joe. Information on Michael Healy-Rae  Zoom on Michael Healy-Rae  Healy-Rae, Michael.
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Information on Michael Creed  Zoom on Michael Creed  Creed, Michael. Information on Seamus Kirk  Zoom on Seamus Kirk  Kirk, Seamus.
Information on Jim Daly  Zoom on Jim Daly  Daly, Jim. Information on Pádraig MacLochlainn  Zoom on Pádraig MacLochlainn  Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig.
Information on Jimmy Deenihan  Zoom on Jimmy Deenihan  Deenihan, Jimmy. Information on Charlie McConalogue  Zoom on Charlie McConalogue  McConalogue, Charlie.
Information on Patrick Deering  Zoom on Patrick Deering  Deering, Pat. Information on Mary Lou McDonald  Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald  McDonald, Mary Lou.
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Information on Bernard Durkan  Zoom on Bernard Durkan  Durkan, Bernard J. Information on Michael McGrath  Zoom on Michael McGrath  McGrath, Michael.
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Information on Alan Farrell  Zoom on Alan Farrell  Farrell, Alan. Information on Sandra McLellan  Zoom on Sandra McLellan  McLellan, Sandra.
Information on Frank Feighan  Zoom on Frank Feighan  Feighan, Frank. Information on Micheál Martin  Zoom on Micheál Martin  Martin, Micheál.
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Information on Frances Fitzgerald  Zoom on Frances Fitzgerald  Fitzgerald, Frances. Information on Catherine Murphy  Zoom on Catherine Murphy  Murphy, Catherine.
Information on Peter Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Peter Fitzpatrick  Fitzpatrick, Peter. Information on Patrick Nulty  Zoom on Patrick Nulty  Nulty, Patrick.
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Information on Eamon Gilmore  Zoom on Eamon Gilmore  Gilmore, Eamon. Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl  Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl  Ó Fearghaíl, Seán.
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Information on Enda Kenny  Zoom on Enda Kenny  Kenny, Enda.  
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Information on Michael McCarthy  Zoom on Michael McCarthy  McCarthy, Michael.  
Information on Dinny McGinley  Zoom on Dinny McGinley  McGinley, Dinny.  
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Information on Michael McNamara  Zoom on Michael McNamara  McNamara, Michael.  
Information on Olivia Mitchell  Zoom on Olivia Mitchell  Mitchell, Olivia.  
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Information on Dara Murphy  Zoom on Dara Murphy  Murphy, Dara.  
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Information on Derek Nolan  Zoom on Derek Nolan  Nolan, Derek.  
Information on Kieran O'Donnell  Zoom on Kieran O'Donnell  O'Donnell, Kieran.  
Information on Patrick O'Donovan  Zoom on Patrick O'Donovan  O'Donovan, Patrick.  
Information on Fergus O'Dowd  Zoom on Fergus O'Dowd  O'Dowd, Fergus.  
Information on John O'Mahony  Zoom on John O'Mahony  O'Mahony, John.  
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Information on Jan O'Sullivan  Zoom on Jan O'Sullivan  O'Sullivan, Jan.  
Information on Ann Phelan  Zoom on Ann Phelan  Phelan, Ann.  
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Information on Pat Rabbitte  Zoom on Pat Rabbitte  Rabbitte, Pat.  
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Information on Alan Shatter  Zoom on Alan Shatter  Shatter, Alan.  
Information on Arthur Spring  Zoom on Arthur Spring  Spring, Arthur.  
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Information on David Stanton  Zoom on David Stanton  Stanton, David.  
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Information on Liam Twomey  Zoom on Liam Twomey  Twomey, Liam.  
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Tellers: Tá, Deputies Paul Kehoe and Emmet Stagg; Níl, Deputies Catherine Murphy and John Halligan.

Question declared carried.


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