Snippet data - viewing only, no editing possible


Label

Field name

Field value


Sitting_Date

07/11/2018 12:00:00 AM


Sitting_Forum


Snippet Ref No

SnippetRefNo

HHH00500

Selected Quill

SnippetType

1

Saved Quill

SnippetType_C4D


Selected Quill

SnippetType_1

1

Speaker Name

IndxSpeakerName

Collins, Joan

Business Category

IndxMainHeadCat

Bills

Sub Category

IndxSubTopic

Children and Family Relationships (Amendment) Bill 2018

Topic

IndxQHeadTopic

Second Stage

See Also

SeeAlso


Part1

TitlePart1


Part2

TitlePart2


Part3

TitlePart3


Volume

VolumeNo

971

Book No

BookNo

6

Pdf Ref

PdfPageRef

889

Default Business Index

IndexViewCategoryDefault


3 Part Title Business Index

IndexViewCategoryTitle


Default Topic Index

IndexViewCategoryDefaultSpeaker

Children and Family Relationships (Amendment) Bill 2018\Second Stage
Bills\Children and Family Relationships (Amendment) Bill 2018\Second Stage

3 Part Topic Index

IndexViewCategoryTitleSpeaker


Motion Code

MotionCode


Motion Title

MotionTitle


Stage

MotionStage


Amendment No

MotionAmendmentNo


Bill Code

BillCode

B2

Bill Title

BillTitle

Children and Family Relationships (Amendment) Bill 2018

Stage

BillStage

Second Stage

Section

BillSection


Statement Code

StatementCode


Statement Title

StatementTitle


Stage

StatementStage


Hour Indicator

HourIndicator

Not applicable

Procedural Instruction

Procedural_Instruction

No

Debate Adjourned

DebateAdjourned

No

Question Askee

QAskee


Question Asker

QAsker


Question Department

QDept


Question ID

QID


Question Reference

QRef


Question Speaker PID

QSpeakerPID


Question Speaker PID To

QSpeakerPIDTo


Questions Asked

QUESTIONSASKED


Speaker Type

SpeakerType

1

Speaker Name

Senator


Deputy


Minister


Witness


Chairman


ViceChairman


ActingChairmanD


ActingChairmanS


Speaker4Display

Speaker4Display

Deputy Joan Collins

Speaker

Speaker

Deputy Joan Collins

SpeakerPID

SpeakerPID

JoanCollins

SpeakerText

SpeakerText

Joan Collins

OriginalUnidSnippet

OriginalUnidSnippet

74892E6C720E76B4802582C70077794E

LastModifiedSnippet

LastModifiedSnippet

10/14/2019 02:19:28 PM

TopicIndex1stCategoryValues

TopicIndex1stCategoryValues

Snippet Contents:

I will share time with Deputy Pringle. There is a great deal of confusion about this issue because people think it involves moving the Children and Family Relationships Act 2015 onto the next stage. Like every Deputy who has spoken so far in this debate, I have received many emails on this Bill. In light of the ongoing confusion I have mentioned, a concerted effort is needed to send people a message about what is involved in this amending Bill, which is necessary to facilitate the enactment of Parts 2 and 3 of the 2015 Act. My understanding is that this technical Bill involves the amendment of two sections of the 2015 Act. Section 4 gives certain rights to families that have children from anonymous gametes and intend to use existing stored anonymous gametes to have further children who will be siblings to the existing children. This acts as a transitional arrangement to enable those who have conceived via anonymous donors to use gametes stored from the same donation for the conception of another child. However, anonymous donation will be banned after the 2015 Act has been fully commenced. This amending Bill will specifically amend a reference to "section 26(6)" in section 4 of the 2015 Act. Without the correct reference, families will not be able to use their stored donor gametes at all, which would go against the transitional arrangement inherent in section 4 of the 2015 Act.
It is important for us to send a message to people about what is involved in this legislation. Sections 14 and 16 of the 2015 Act deal with consent forms and cover numerous circumstances in relation to donation, including consent to use donation and to have donor implantation. They also give the Minister the power to make regulations in this regard. This amending legislation will amend sections 14 and 16 to enable the enactment of Parts 2 and 3 of the 2015 Act. I want to clarify that this amending Bill addresses the position in respect of same-sex female couples only. My understanding is that the position in respect of same-sex male couples will be addressed in the upcoming assisted human reproduction Bill at the end of the year. That is one of the reasons I support the amendment that is being proposed by People Before Profit. It is important for us to have a timeline. After this amending Bill has amended the relevant sections of the 2015 Act in the manner I have outlined, it will be possible for Parts 2 and 3 of that Act to be enacted. The enactment of those Parts will allow same-sex female couples to apply to the courts to declare parentage. It will not allow for the deregistration and reregistration of a birth certificate that is required to have a partner's name on the birth certificate. For this to happen, Part 9 will have to be enacted and this falls under the remit of the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection.
Other Deputies have mentioned particular queries they have received. I would like to refer to a query I have received from a couple. The person who sent me the query said that she and her wife have a two year old daughter and that she is pregnant with their second child. They went abroad - to Spain and to Portugal - for both babies to avail of reciprocal IVF, which is not legal in Ireland. This form of shared motherhood means that the woman who wrote to me carries the pregnancies and her wife's eggs are used. Even though her wife is the biological mother of both children, she is a legal stranger to them currently. This woman told me she understands that the Bill before the House will cover only those lesbian couples that have used Irish clinics with identifiable donors. She and her partner used a clinic abroad with an anonymous donor because this was the only option open to them in Spain and Portugal. They want to know where this legislation will leave them. The woman who contacted me thinks it is crazy to think this legislation will not extend to her wife, who is the biological mother of their children. She made the point that if anything, her wife and not her should be the person who has rights to the children. Regardless of how same-sex couples conceive their children - in clinics, through IVF, via home insemination or through surrogacy - their children are all equal.