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22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Civil Defence Bill 2012 - Committee and Remaining Stages, to be taken at the conclusion of the Order of Business.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [713]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] There are many problems in the country and it is a pity more business is not being taken. That calls into the question the Government's true agenda and whether it is able to run the country in the way it has been elected to do.
I refer to the mortgage to rent scheme, a pillar ...
Vol-218 Book-12 Page [713]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] While I am sure Senator Thomas Byrne has read the Regling-Watson report, he has obviously forgotten it, like most of the Members on the other side of the House. It was quite clear in stating 70% of the country's financial problems were related directly to the policies of the for...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [714]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Some 70% of the problems were caused by the policies of the former Government, according to the independent Regling-Watson report. Denial is a great art.[Harte, Jimmy]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [714]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] What help is that to people with mortgage difficulties? The Senator's party is now in power and mine was voted out because of what had occurred.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [714]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Government has taken the burning torch from the Senator's party. It is burning stronger now and we must ensure this will continue to be the case. The Senator and his colleagues come to the House and tell us we are doing nothing for distressed mortgage holders. One newspape...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [714]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] What has that to do with the Government? It is a private transaction between an English bank and another foreign bank.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [715]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Jimmy Harte to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [715]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Had the Senator not been on his phone, he might have listened to what I had to say.[Harte, Jimmy]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [715]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We should respect each other. I hope those who have 100% mortgages and may be in serious negative equity will be given some glimmer of hope. However, I express caution as the article to which I referred refers to the diminished role of the Central Bank regarding the many mortga...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [715]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Following on from what Senator Jimmy Harte said - reasonably - I would like to say a few words on the interview that I am sure we all saw last night. I had not intended to speak on this subject but was so greatly moved by the dignity, composure and solemn grief of Mr. Halappanav...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [715]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Perhaps the Minister for Justice and Equality or another Government spokesperson with seniority such as the Minister for Health might come to the House to answer some of these questions.
A group which I believe is entitled Oireachtas Members for Human Dignity has been establish...
Vol-218 Book-12 Page [716]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] In recent times the House has frequently discussed the need for job creation and protection. I ask the Minister for Finance to recognise, when framing the budget, that the motor industry in Ireland employs in the region of 40,000 people. I ask him to ensure the budget will not ...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [716]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I watched the programme last night and saw the dignity of a man who had lost the woman he loved. This country needs leadership on this issue which is sadly lacking from the Government at this time. The President's comments yesterday of what needs to happen is showing the leader...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [717]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] It is not mine. Will we have a debate on this issue? The programme for Government promised to clean up State boards and all previous appointees would be asked to resign in six months. After the Global Irish Economic Forum, we had these offers to serve for free when other count...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [717]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I watched last night's interview with Praveen Halappanavar. When we see a man having to share his grief in a public way and going through the last moments of his wife's life with a nation, then we know something is awry. This man should be allowed to have his grief in private. ...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [717]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business, that non-Government motion No. 10 be taken today with the Minister for Social Protection. The motion calls on the Minister to amend the criteria for community employment schemes and extend it to under 25s. We all know the massive...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [717]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] All of us have been contacted by students recently who have not received their student grants. I know work is being done on this matter but it is important, as we come closer to Christmas, that it is speedily resolved. Some of us met with the vocational education committees thi...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [718]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We have had emotional language in the Chamber dealing with the Department of Health. I wish to raise another urgent and scandalous issue. On October 21, Emily O'Reilly, the Ombudsman, decided to exercise her right to make a special report to the Dáil and the Seanad because of a...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [718]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I, too, wish to comment on the meeting this morning between Oireachtas Members and members of VECs throughout the country, especially with regard to student grants from SUSI. At one time the third level grant applications process was overseen by the VECs and local authorities. ...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [719]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I, too, watched the "Prime Time" programme last night and anyone in the country who watched it would have sympathy for the families of Savita and Praveen Halappanavar. However, he does not simply need sympathy; he needs support from the State and all politicians. The only way h...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [719]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We have been discussing this tragic case in Galway for two weeks now. From the outset I requested an independent inquiry. I realise we are in a logjam situation at the moment. Incredible sensitivities are involved in this case. I appeal for openness on both sides in order tha...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [720]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I second the proposal of Senator Kathryn Reilly on the jobs issue. Several calls have been made this morning from both sides of the House with regard to a public inquiry into the unfortunate death of Mrs. Halappanavar in Galway recently. I am unsure but I know my party is seeki...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [720]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Walsh, I ruled on this matter yesterday. We will not discuss it again.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I think people who talk about sensitivity and treating people with courtesy should not be quite so hypocritical. It happens repeatedly in this House, involving two or three Members, and I am sick and tired of it.[Norris, David]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] As I said yesterday, the person who was appointed as the chairperson has a lot of experience-----[Burke, Colm]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We are not dealing with the chairperson of the inquiry. Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I do have a question. In this case, the HSE is obliged to carry out an inquiry because it is contracted to provide health care services in this country. A very serious incident occurred where there was a tragic loss of life and therefore the HSE is obliged to carry out an inqui...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I ruled on this matter yesterday. We are not discussing the chairman of the inquiry team.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] -----where there were ten maternal deaths in a three-year period. He has a lot of experience.[Burke, Colm]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I ruled on this matter yesterday. We are not dealing with the independence of the chairperson of the inquiry.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Yes. It is important that the message be conveyed to the Minister that the inquiry be held at the earliest possible date in order that the facts are made available to the public. The structure that has been set up is the proper way of dealing with the issue and that does not pr...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I wish to comment on the issue of the inquiry, about which many other Senators have already spoken. Anyone who watched the "Prime Time" interview with Praveen Halappanavar last night could not fail to be moved by his dignity, the extent of his grief and the appalling situation t...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [721]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] It is imperative that we hear from the Minister for Health on the inquiry into the death of the late Savita Halappanavar. I have been extremely careful in my utterances in recent days but there are two core principles that we need to discuss with the Minister. The first is the ...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [722]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I ruled on this issue yesterday and will not allow the Senator to speak about the chairman. He is an independent chairperson and we are not discussing his abilities. Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [722]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator is aware that there are other ways to raise this issue if he wishes to but he should not raise it on the Order of Business. Does he have a question for the Leader today? The Order of Business is about the business for today.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [722]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I never use my contributions on the Order of Business to do anything except raise issues that are seriously in the public interest.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We are not discussing any individual who is not here to defend himself. I have ruled on this matter on several occasions, both yesterday and today, and I am not accepting that he be mentioned-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I am quoting writings by a person and entitled to draw a conclusion-----[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Please ask a question of the Leader on the Order of Business, on today's business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Yes. If an academic talks about taking the life of a foetus, whether alive or dead, after a late-term pregnancy-----[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] How can one take the life of a foetus if it is dead?[Norris, David]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] -----that feeds in to a serious problem. The Standing Orders of this House are not being applied properly. If urgent matters in the public interest cannot be raised-----[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Yes and the Order of Business request which I have made is that we need to-----[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator's time is up. I call on the Leader to reply.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I do not think the Cathaoirleach should protect the Minister in this way.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] A very serious charge has been made against the Cathaoirleach.[Norris, David]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Cathaoirleach has been accused of not applying Standing Orders and not being fair.[Norris, David]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I ask the Senator to resume his seat. I am not accepting any point of order.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [723]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] My point of order is that it cannot be the case that a Member of this House may not advert to the written text of an academic or a person and draw certain conclusions.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] That is not a point of order, as the Senator well knows.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I am asking the Cathaoirleach to tell us how he can possibly prevent me from reading out a text and drawing a conclusion from it as it relates to a matter of current public interest.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I have asked the Senator if he has a question for the Leader on the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Yes, and I explained my question but the Cathaoirleach went further.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is about the order for the day.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Cathaoirleach went further and said that I could not refer to the text. How can that be?[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] My question is whether the Leader will invite the Minister for Health to the House to explain these two urgent reasons for having an independent inquiry. I am proposing that a retired judge, somebody who understands the Irish system and who is not seen to be biased one way or th...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The acting leader of the Opposition, Senator Byrne, raised the issue of the mortgage to rent scheme. On foot of the recommendations of the Keane report on mortgage arrears the Government launched a mortgage to rent scheme on a pilot basis in February 2012, which was extended nat...Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] We had three hours but the Minister for Justice and Equality used up one hour and 15 minutes. I spoke in the debate.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Fianna Fáil Members have been speaking about mortgage arrears and insolvency legislation for weeks-----[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [724]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Do not imply that I was not here for yesterday's debate.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] -----but when they had an opportunity to speak on these issues yesterday only two contributors were from Fianna Fáil.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] If that is indicative of Fianna Fáil Members' interest in the people who are in mortgage arrears-----[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] The Minister took nearly half of the three hours allocated for the debate.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] -----they should put their money where their mouths are in future. If they call for debates they should speak in them when they get the opportunity to do so.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] There was not enough time. The Minister took half the time.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] There was plenty of time. All Fianna Fáil provided was two speakers in a debate lasting three hours. Look at the record.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I hope the Leader pays his compliments to Independent Senators, almost all of whom spoke. We are a small group.[Norris, David]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Naturally, I do not propose to accept the opportunistic proposal to amend the Order of Business.
I did not see yesterday evening's RTE programme on the death of Savita Halappanavar. I do not wish to comment on the programme, but Senator Harte asked about the coroner's report. ...
Vol-218 Book-12 Page [725]
22/11/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Byrne has proposed the following amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate on the failure of the mortgage to rent scheme be taken today." As there is no seconder, the amendment falls.
Senator Kathryn Reilly has proposed the following amendment, "That No. 19, m...
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22/11/2012 [Order of Business] I propose that the sitting be suspended until 11.45 a.m.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-218 Book-12 Page [726]
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