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06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, statements on the report of the expert group on the judgment in the A, B and C v. Ireland case, to be taken at 2 p.m. and adjourn not later than 4.30 p.m., with the contributions of group spokespersons not to exceed eight minutes and those of all o...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [483]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Yesterday was an important day. Fianna Fáil disagrees with many items contained in the budget. The Minister of State, Deputy Hayes, was in the House yesterday for statements on the budget. One issue on which there is agreement across the House is the requirement for more time ...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [483]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [483]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Leader should arrange a meeting with the Fine Gael and Labour Party Senators to discuss the issue. The reason time is required for further debate is that while the budget was announced yesterday, it was only late last night or early today that people came to understand what ...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [483]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik and all her student friends in Labour Youth were among those who stood with the Minister for Education and Skills, when he was simply Deputy Ruairí Quinn, as he signed a pledge that he would not increase registration fees. He has increased them again.
There is so...
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06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I am trying to inform Senator Bacik what her party did yesterday.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seeking a debate? We are on the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I reiterate what I said last night. Senator Bacik's party rolled over like the old Labour Party dog it is, and let Fine Gael rub its belly.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Labour Party was not even able to push for a 3% increase in the USC for those earning more than €100,000, which would have brought in €200 million. What did it do instead? It cut child benefit by €10----[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] What about pensions? What about the measures on capital gains and acquisitions?[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That party failed miserably. I am looking for more than a debate. I am proposing an amendment to the Order of Business.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [484]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I propose that the Minister for Social Protection - or social destruction - Deputy Joan Burton come to the House. The reason is that she hid a supplementary budget yesterday.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I propose that the Minister come to the House and explain how she, a Labour Party Minister, can stand over the cuts she introduced and also why she found it fit to use budget day to cover up a supplementary budget, an overspend of €670 million. We will deal with the Minister for...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I propose that the Minister, Deputy Joan Burton, come to thie House to explain the rationale for cutting the respite care grant and child benefit, to name but two.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I would like her to explain, as all of us would-----[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator can ask for that when the Minister attends the House. I call Senator Bacik.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I hope Senator Bacik will agree to this amendment because we were promised an open and transparent budgetary process, which we did not get. What did we get? The Minister for Social Protection, who cannot manage her own area, stands over a €10 cut to child benefit and cuts to th...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There is an empty vessel across the floor of the House making a lot of noise about this.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] As Senator Darragh O'Brien knows well, there are 14 measures in the budget that are specifically targeted to tax wealth, a direct consequence of the position of the Labour Party in government.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] It pushed the party to do that and grasp its wealthy friends.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If the Senator bothered to read the objective commentary made overnight and today about the budget, he will see it is generally acknowledged that this is a budget which targets wealth, as it should.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [485]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There is the property tax. For the first time we will see a tax that is squarely focused on taxing wealth and ensuring that those with the most will pay most. It is a property tax, rather than an income tax. The Senator well knows that when his Government was in office, it foc...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Last year we had the most regressive budget ever and it has been followed with another one.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I welcome that the Minister for Social Protection will attend the House today to deal with the Civil Registration (Amendment) Bill-----[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] -----which will legalise humanist weddings. It was initiated as a Private Members' Bill in this House.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] It is a burning issue for many people and I am delighted the Bill has cross-party support. I remind Senator Darragh O'Brien that the Minister, Deputy Burton, will attend the House for several days to deal with the Social Welfare Bill and changes to social welfare.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There will be plenty of time to debate the issues the Senator wishes to raise.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I renew a call to the Leader for a debate on the Middle East and Gaza, given that today and tomorrow will see the biggest ever international conference ever held in Ireland, with foreign Ministers from all over the world attending the OSCE meeting in the RDS. This is a significa...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [486]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Overnight, the Carrickfergus office of Stewart Dickson, MLA, was set on fire by some of his political opponents. That is a very sad event. We all recognise the noble role the Alliance Party has paid in the peace process. Will the Leader express our regrets and sympathy to Mr. ...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] My good friends across the Chamber have absolutely no credibility.[Mullins, Michael]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Stick to something safe. Do not go down that road.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien mentioned social destruction. There were two elections, in 2002 and 2007, after which Fianna Fáil was responsible for unsustainable spending and giveaways.[Mullins, Michael]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Mullins to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There is hardship now because some of that spending has had to be clawed back. In fairness, neither does Sinn Féin have any credibility because it never had to make an economic decision in this country. In the North it did, where it succeeded in raising property tax of approxim...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [487]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] -----and has taken some very severe budgetary decisions. This budget is designed to ensure that those who can afford to pay more will pay more. There are many positive features, some of which were welcomed yesterday by small and medium-sized enterprises.
I spoke about the mot...
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06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business, namely, that the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Fitzgerald, come before the House in order that we might have the opportunity to impress upon her the need to revisit a number of measures contained in yesterday's bu...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator has promoted Senator Darragh O'Brien to Minister.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] -----the Minister for Social Protection has not been in a position to listen to her party's backbenchers. We had an opportunity to discuss some matters relating to the budget last evening. As one of my colleagues stated in the Dáil yesterday, the budget is anti-women and anti-c...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Is the Senator referring to the fancy pre-budget submission that was not costed? The only ones who costed it were those in Fianna Fáil.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Our budget submission was costed and it recommends how €3.5 billion-----[MacSharry, Marc]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] It was certainly not costed by those who made the calculations for the Minister for Health, Deputy Reilly, in respect of the €370 million overrun relating to the health service. It was also not costed by the person who made the calculations for the Minister for Social Protection...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Our pre-budget submission contained recommendations on how to achieve the €3.5 billion in savings contained in the budget and produce a higher tax yield. Under those recommendations, child benefit, maternity benefit and the back to school allowance would have been protected. Co...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] It was a Fianna Fáil Government which introduced the bank guarantee and led us into the troika programme.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [488]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I ask that the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs come before the House in order that we might ask her to consider the implications of the budget for the mothers and children of Ireland. The cuts to which I refer can and should be reversed.[MacSharry, Marc]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] In our costed pre-budget submission, we showed how a 3% increase in the universal social charge would yield €200 million. If our recommendation in this regard were accepted, the Government would not be obliged to destroy families throughout the country.[MacSharry, Marc]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We all know that the budget had to include some austerity measures in order that we might get back on some kind of track. Privately, Fianna Fáil colleagues inform me that social welfare needed to be cut. However, they have not indicated the elements of social welfare which they...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The budget will cost him a seat in Dáil Éireann on the next occasion.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Kelly should come over to this side of the House.[MacSharry, Marc]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There will be a cost for him and many more in the House.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I do not want the Senator to have high blood pressure.[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator has indicated that he wishes to speak and he will have the opportunity to do so.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [489]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I will take that opportunity. I am just waiting for it to arise.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Nor have Fianna Fáil's colleagues in Sinn Féin-----[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If I am allowed to speak, I will be able to pose any amount of questions.[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I was walking down the corridor following last evening's Adjournment debate and I met three Sinn Féin Members. I heard them state "The devil must be in the detail".[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That is hearsay. Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The devil must be in the detail because outside of the reduction to the respite care grant, those opposite are struggling to find a really substantive measure in the budget about which they can criticise the Government.[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator should stop. Why does he not go hiding at weekends?[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Does Senator Kelly have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I am coming to it. I welcome the fact that three matters in respect of which I have campaigned continually were all addressed in the budget.[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The first of these is the rebate for the haulage sector in respect of diesel costs, the second is the jobs initiative scheme. I have continually stated that social welfare payments should be used to get people back to work-----[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] For every one of the past three weeks, Senator Darragh O'Brien has been raising the issue of home help hours. In the budget----[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [490]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We have just witnessed the sting of the dying wasp.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Neither I nor anyone else in Sinn Féin need inform Labour Party Members with regard to what is bad about the budget. They will be very clearly informed in this regard by their constituents and those who will be affected by this, the second tough, gruelling austerity budget to be...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We have not done anything in respect of education.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Government has introduced a property tax which does not take account of people's ability to pay. The spokesperson of the liberal wing of the Labour Party, Senator Bacik, almost wears as a badge of honour the fact that the Government has not increased income tax.[Cullinane, D...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik has referred to the new property tax as progressive.[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik should resume her seat. That is not a point of order.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik should address her remarks through the Chair. She should also sit down.[MacSharry, Marc]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik is a liberal and she cares nothing for social issues or for families which are going to be hammered by this property tax. It is an unfair tax which is not linked with people's ability to pay.[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We are not discussing the budget on the Order of Business. If the Senator has a question for the Leader, he should ask it.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Does the Leader agree that the property tax is unfair?[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [491]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Does he agree that one cannot describe a tax which is not linked with a person's income as fair or progressive?[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Is the Senator referring to a tax similar to the one his party introduced in the North?[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] In the North people get free education, including free schoolbooks and transport, free health care and-----[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Those in government will pay a hefty price for this, their second gruelling austerity budget.[Cullinane, David]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Cullinane will terrify the children who are sitting in the Visitors Gallery. They all look frightened.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We all knew this budget would be tough. Every year it gets harder. I will be honest that I am really angry with Fianna Fáil for its recklessnes.[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The country and its people are where Fianna Fáil put them. I thank Fianna Fáil. That party should take its responsibility on board and man up. We have been placed in a ridiculous position.[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] When will the House engage in a debate on the property tax in order that we might figure out ways to make it affordable, to allow people to defer payment, etc.?[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If the Senator wishes to be called on the Order of Business, he should stop interrupting.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Another important issue with which we must deal is the expert group's report, a debate on which is scheduled to take place later. I appeal to Members to give real consideration to this matter and contribute to the debate to which I refer.[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [492]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We must face up to this issue. When does the health of the mother matter? When does the life of the mother matter?[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator can raise these questions during the debate.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] All of this matters. I ask the Leader to extend the debate as much as possible because we want a thorough debate. While we are dealing with the issue now, we should not rush.[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I second amendment No. 1. In regard to the budget, it would be useful if the Minister----[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We are not discussing the budget. We are finished with it.[Kelly, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I have a suggestion for the Leader. He might invite the Minister for Finance to the House next week to discuss the details of the budget. I was in the Lower House in 1982 when Garrett the Good brought in the tax on children's shoes.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I walked through the voting lobbies with the great Jim Kemmy. I hope he is an inspiration to the Labour Party, particularly-----[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Is the Senator proposing an amendment to the Order of Business?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I have seconded Senator Darragh O'Brien's amendment. I cannot believe the Government has cut child benefit by €10 after the passage of the children's referendum on 11 November.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That can be part of the debate the Senator is looking for.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] On a point of order, does the Senator not realise he has taken thousands of euro from children, not €10?[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator should resume his seat. He is not speechless.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I want to underline for Senator Bacik what the Labour Party said. She canvassed in Dún Laoghaire on the back of it.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If the Senator says he is speechless, he should remain so.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Will the Leader ask the Minister for Justice and Equality to come to the House next week to discuss the closure of Ballintubber, Ballyforan and Knockcroghery Garda stations and the amalgamation and rationalisation of the stations in Castlerea and Boyle? What has he got against B...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [493]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The people of north Roscommon had great expectations of the Senator. They have been dashed, destroyed and ruined and Fine Gael and the Labour Party will pay the price at the next election. They will be wiped out.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If the matter was not so serious, I would ask the Leader to organise for someone from the magic wand factory to come to the House to discuss how to create magic wands, which Fianna Fáil seems to believe we can use to create an immaculate budget that does not affect anybody, despi...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I second Senator MacSharry's amendment. Government Members may think we in Fianna Fáil are stirring everything up for what it is worth but the people are speaking. The Irish Independent says it all.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Mooney to continue, without interruption, although he should not discuss the budget on the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] When they return to their constituencies, they will find out exactly what is the mood of the people. The bell is tolling for the Government parties and there are winds of change. There is no question that they will be swept away.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The bell is tolling. Does the Senator have a question for Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator knows all about change. The people took care of him and his party.[Eames, Fidelma Healy]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] With regard to deference to and respect for the Chair, who like many colleagues, has respect and appreciation for the decorum of the House, some elements of Members' contributions do not cast a positive reflection on the House and I do not mean the content. For example, when the...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [494]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Cathaoirleach asked whether Senator Leyden was speechless. Government Members are speechless listening to the drivel and nonsense coming out of Fianna Fáil Members.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I have. Fianna Fáil is the republican party but it should probably be renamed the tabloid party.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Gilroy to continue, without interruption. Does he have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The populism of Fianna Fáil, which was well articulated by Senator Darragh O'Brien, makes me think all its members have turned into 'Ming' with a Dublin accent. Senator Leyden and others betrayed their real feelings about the budget when they said the Labour Party, in particular...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Senator would not be the first to slip off the high moral ground.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We want to get the country and the economy back on track. The Diarmuid Mac Murchadas of Fianna Fáil invited the IMF to the country. We will not shirk from the difficult decisions that must be made. If it damages the Labour Party and individual careers, so be it. That is the p...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [495]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I agree with the Senator about child benefit at the lower level, certainly.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We should take a look at the respite care grant. Those measures seem to be particularly harsh and if anything can be done, the Labour Party will do it.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The House debated the budget for two hours last night but that was not nearly enough time. I hope there will be an opportunity to have a more comprehensive debate next week on the fallout from the budget when we can deal with some of the negative details. I acknowledge there ar...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Once the child comes into the world he or she will also be targeted. I do not know how any political party can attack both the unborn and the newly born. It is not right.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Yes, I have. We need to have a debate on some of the issues. I agree with Senator Gilroy that elements of the budget need to be revisited. I hope the Fine Gael and Labour Party backbenchers will stand up for their convictions and challenge their own Ministers to row back on is...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Those are the facts. I call on the Leader to facilitate a debate next week with the Minister for Finance. Tuesday would be my preferred date. We need to discuss the fallout from the budget in some detail.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] In all of the clamour about the negative aspects of the budgets we have forgotten some of the positive aspects. I welcome that the rate of rent supplement has not been altered. One in every five families is now living in private rented accommodation and the State funds 100,000 ...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [496]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Fine Gael and the Labour Party were opposed to it at the time.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I remind the Senator that history matters. His party abolished rates in 1977 but to be honest, we helped his party in 1973 when the Fine Gael-Labour Party coalition removed a substantial level of rates in urban areas. None of us is without blame.[Hayden, Aideen]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The facts of the matter remain that Fianna Fáil spent longer in government than us and they have had more opportunities to deal with this matter. I ask the Leader that in the new year when we have all had a chance to read and to reflect on the Thornhill report that he would arra...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] At a time when vulnerable communities are worried about crime, the Minister, Deputy Shatter, used the cover of the budget to announce the closure of 100 Garda stations, including three in County Cavan, Bawnboy, Stradone and Redhills. This is a very cynical exercise by the Minist...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That is a remark uncharacteristic of Senator Wilson. It is ungenerous.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] At a time when crime is on the increase, the Minister continues to close Garda stations, take Garda cars away from gardaí and lock them up in the Phoenix Park. Gardaí are supposed to police their areas by using CCTV while sitting in Garda stations in the main towns. It is a hug...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [497]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Like other speakers, I wish to mention the PRSI changes. I understand the concerns of Senators on the other side of the House with regard to cuts to PRSI. However, the extra €5 charge will serve to bolster their entitlements in certain circumstances. As the Minister said this ...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [498]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] As I came into Leinster House this morning, I could hear all the shouting emanating from this Chamber. A group of schoolchildren were in the hall. We are doing ourselves a great deal of harm in this House when we shout and raise objections. I heard Senator Mooney say that when...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [498]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Last night a major security operation on the Merrion Square side of Leinster House was not because anyone was protesting against the budget but rather it was because a very distinguished guest, Hillary Clinton, was in town. The Clintons are always welcome to this country. Their...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [498]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] My apologies, I forgot to call Deputy Colm Burke and other Senators.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [498]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I thank the Cathaoirleach and apologise to the Leader. In regard to the budget there are one or two issues we need to look at in respect of the health budget. Some €150 million extra is being put into the health budget which is a huge amount considering that less money is avail...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [498]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] There are many aspects of the budget that remind me of the debacle of the budget introduced by the then Minister for Finance, Mr. John Bruton, when he imposed a tax on children's shoes. The cuts to older people in this budget are of the same order. Each one of us is getting old...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We are not having a debate on the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The sharp reduction in the income thresholds for the over 70s will cause hardship and further undermine the ability of older people who will lose their medical cards as a result of the immediate health care costs. I ask the Leader to invite the Minister to come to the House. It...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We are putting an extra €150 million into the health budget.[Burke, Colm]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That is the reason there is nobody to stand up for them. I am aware the Minister of State at the Department of Health, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, is a very good Minister but she has four or five portfolios. When Fianna Fáil is back in government, which will be soon-----[White, Mary...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Nobody here will be alive when Fianna Fáil is back in government. They will be long dead.[Gilroy, John]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [499]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I ask the Leader to invite the Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, Deputy Deenihan, to come to the House next week for a debate on the proposal to designate special areas of conservation and the impact on the Porcupine Basin where it is proposed to drill ten wells in t...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Obviously, the budget has dominated the Order of Business. I listened to the entire debate on the budget and sat in for the last 45 minutes. There were two more speakers offering at that stage who did not get in. In saying that, we have had pre-budget debates which we have not...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] The Leader to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That is why we are forced to have difficult budgets. I am looking at Fianna Fáil's pre-budget announcement. It is as vague as Fianna Fáil was when in government in relation to policies.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Let me give two specific examples. Fianna Fáil proposes to save €350 million through non-pay savings under the Croke Park agreement and €200 million through control and activation measures in social protection. There are no details on where the €500 million will come from.[Cumm...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Obviously, the Senator did not read the full document.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I presume it is the rising tide lifting all boats and Fianna Fáil sunk them all afterwards. We will leave the budget aside.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We will have ample opportunity to discuss the many issues Members have raised on the budget. They have asked that the Minister for Social Protection come to the House. The social welfare Bill will probably come before the House next week when there will be ample time to discuss...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [500]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] He would have got another gold medal for his dramatic performance last night. It is no wonder he is so hoarse this morning.
Senator Kelly correctly highlighted the fuel rebate for the haulage sector, which is welcome. I know of no one who has not welcomed this measure in the ...
Vol-219 Book-7 Page [501]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] We will stand by the country and do what is right for it at all times.
Senator Healy Eames requested a debate on the property tax. I am sure we will have a further debate on it in early course. With regard to the expert group on abortion report, if Members read the Order of B...
Vol-219 Book-7 Page [501]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] If Members wish to go and see Hillary Clinton rather than attend to their duties in the House, they are welcome to do so.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-219 Book-7 Page [501]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Members should listen to the Order of Business and they would know the position on the debate.
What can I say in response to Senator Leyden? Fianna Fáil took the shirts off people's backs and bankrupted the country. There is not much more to add.
Senator O'Keeffe asked for ...
Vol-219 Book-7 Page [502]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] I am sure I can arrange a debate with the Minister on the closure of barracks and so on.
Senator Conway referred to the visit of Hillary Clinton, which everyone welcomes. The Clintons have been good friends to Ireland and will continue to be.
Senator Colm Burke raised an iss...
Vol-219 Book-7 Page [502]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] That will not happen under Fine Gael but it might happen under Fianna Fáil.
Senator Sheahan made an important point about special areas of conversation and the impact of drilling for oil in the Porcupine Basin and other areas. I am sure the Minister for Arts, Heritage and the ...
Vol-219 Book-7 Page [503]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That a debate with the Minister for Social Protection on the reductions in the respite care allowance and child benefit contained in the budget be taken today". Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathao...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [503]
06/12/2012 [Order of Business] Senator Marc MacSharry has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That a debate with the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs on the impact the cuts proposed in the budget will have on women and children be taken today." Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathaoirle...Vol-219 Book-7 Page [504]
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