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 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, motion re the arrangements for the sitting of the House on Friday, 20 December 2013, to be taken without debate at the conclusion of the Order of Business; No. 2, Appropriation Bill 2013 [Certified Money Bill] - all Stages, to be taken without deba... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [839] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Will the Leader clarify what is proposed in regard to No. 4, Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013?[Byrne, Thomas] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [840] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] No amendments have been tabled to the Bill. I should have stated, however, that it would be taken at the conclusion of No. 3 and conclude not later than 12.15 p.m.[Cummins, Maurice] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [840] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] That is fine.
As I pointed out last year, the Appropriation Bill is effectively a cheque for €47.5 billion which we are being asked to sign today, just as the Dáil was obliged to sign it yesterday. In the past, however, debate was permitted on the Bill, which is a practice tha... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [840] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The Government is not. It is cleaning up by taking medical cards from people.[Byrne, Thomas] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [841] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] A person in a wheelchair and a cancer sufferer came to my office this week about it. Two weeks ago I met a child who has an illness that will end the child's life in a few years and that child had to battle with the Government and the HSE to get a medical card. That is what is ... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [841] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The health plan for next year was published yesterday. We are due to have a briefing session in private this afternoon, according to an e-mail we all received from the Minister. We should have the debate and the briefing session in this House in order that the public can know t... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [841] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] It is admirable that Senator Darragh O'Brien went quietly to the Garda to give the evidence he has, although a cynic might say he should have gone to the fraud squad in the first place.
To give some good news, there has been a reduction in the number of calls to Samaritans whic... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [841] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] We were the first members of our family to visit the grave of a great-uncle.[Hayden, Aideen] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [842] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Most of my Fianna Fáil colleagues have also visited them, me included.[White, Mary M.] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [842] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Aideen Hayden to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [842] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] It is something we must come to terms with as a nation. Both leaders visiting the graves will be a step in the right direction. Many people from the Dublin tenements found themselves in the British army because of their extreme poverty.
My question for the Leader is about hou... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [842] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] On yesterday's Order of Business there was reference to the procedures whereby distinguished people are invited to address Seanad Éireann. There are two categories of people - figures of international importance who largely give an address but might engage in some degree of dial... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [842] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I beg the Chair's pardon. I will end by stating the members of the press could do what they always say they do, namely, watch proceedings on the monitors in their offices, and thereby leave the seats in the Distinguished Visitors Gallery free for others to use.[Norris, David] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [843] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator David Norris's proposal is a an excellent one. Pope Francis recently appealed to the Lord to grant us more politicians with integrity and courage in order that we might try to eliminate poverty. That leads me on to the request I made yesterday that the House should enga... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [843] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Some €7 million has already been invested in greenways and I would like this figure to be increased to €25 million or €30 million next year.[Conway, Martin] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [843] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I support Senator David Norris's wonderful proposal and congratulate him on coming up with it. I am delighted the Committee on Procedure and Privileges also supports the proposal. I urge all Senators to indicate their enthusiastic support for it. Even just issuing an invitatio... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [843] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The Taoiseach does not want to be ambushed by the Senator a second time.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] -----in order to enhance the reputation of this House and the Oireachtas as a whole.[Quinn, Feargal] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] On foot of the revelations in recent days with regard to NAMA's activities-----[Higgins, Lorraine] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] -----it is clear that much of what has happened was facilitated by the veil of secrecy surrounding the agency's operations. It must be remembered that the previous Fianna Fáil Government created NAMA at a cost of billions to Irish taxpayers and yet did not require any transparen... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The Senator will have an opportunity on the NAMA and Irish Bank Resolution Corporation Transparency Bill.[Daly, Mark] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Lorraine Higgins to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The National Asset Management Agency Act which governs the activities of the agency is severely limited in scope and has helped to create this monster which is being run in a way that is contrary to the public interest. We do not know what deals are being done and nor do we know... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [844] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Lorraine Higgins should stand up and be counted.[White, Mary M.] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] If we fail to do as I have outlined, we will have learned nothing.[Higgins, Lorraine] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I raised this matter last week and no one in Fianna Fáil supported me at that stage.[Higgins, Lorraine] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] With the permission of Senator Mark Daly, I will allow Senator John Crown who is in a hurry and needs to be elsewhere to make his contribution now.[An Cathaoirleach] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I am not in a rush. I just want to ensure I will have an opportunity to contribute.[Crown, John] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Lorraine Higgins will be delighted to hear that the NAMA and Irish Bank Resolution Corporation Transparency Bill is on the Order Paper. In that context, I request that by leave of the House No. 17 be taken before No. 1. I would welcome a debate on NAMA and perhaps the H... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The allegations made by those opposite were unfounded. They did not substantiate a single one.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Is Senator Mark Daly proposing an amendment to the Order of Business?[An Cathaoirleach] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I propose that No. 17 be taken before No. 1 in order to allow for publication of the NAMA and Irish Bank Resolution Corporation Transparency Bill. I am sure Senator Lorraine Higgins and others who are seeking transparency in NAMA will support the Bill which would allow for all t... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [845] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The House will soon rise for Christmas. Like other Senators, I find it important to be aware that Christmas can be a lonely time, rather than a time of celebration, for many people who are experiencing difficulties. I refer to the launch yesterday of Samaritans' impact report.... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [846] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I also support the call made by Senator David Norris to issue an invitation to Pope Francis to visit the House. As a party that is not represented on the Committee on Procedure and Privileges, it is important that I indicate Sinn Féin's support for the Senator's call.
I was in... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [846] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Do they have nothing to do with Fianna Fáil and the construction and banking crises?[Hayden, Aideen] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [846] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] It is easy to wring one's hands in the House or describe the problem as terrible in the media. I am aware from interactions with many Government agencies that most of the problems people are experiencing are the result of cutbacks in services. I agree with previous speakers tha... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [846] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I am fully supportive of Senator David Norris's proposal that the Committee on Procedure and Privileges invite Pope Francis to the House. We will have a further discussion on this matter.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] What about the closure of our embassy to the Vatican?[Wilson, Diarmuid] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I congratulate the Minister for Finance, Deputy Michael Noonan, on decisions taken at yesterday's ECOFIN meeting on bank resolution measures, banking union, security of deposits and so forth. I understand the nature of politicians as much as anyone else does. In that context, I... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] We introduced legislation on whistleblowers. We should listen to them.[Higgins, Lorraine] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Please allow Senator Paul Coghlan to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] As a lawyer, Senator Lorraine Higgins is well aware that this is a democracy based on law and we are all governed by the law. As citizens, we have a duty to report information of which we become aware.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I congratulated the Senator on doing so yesterday. Other than that, the milking of this issue we have seen for publicity purposes is a form of Ballymagash politics.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] That is a cynical view. There is a real threat to the taxpayer.[Higgins, Lorraine] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [847] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I welcomed the publication of Senator Mark Daly's Bill, which we will study. Serious matters are at issue, as all Senators will accept, and they are under investigation. Our policy should be one of shut mouths.[Coghlan, Paul] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [848] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] In recent days a report from the Referendum Commission was referred to in the other House. It would be useful if the Leader were to arrange a debate on this matter. The Referendum Commission has a statutory obligation to publish a report after each referendum and its report on ... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [848] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I have not heard of any decisions being taken on Seanad reform. I have heard, however, that the large number of reports on Seanad reform will be studied by the relevant group. Everything is open for discussion, provided it falls within current constitutional parameters and does... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [848] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] It included the University of Ulster at Coleraine.
I wanted to ask the Leader a question I raised here previously concerning the clocking of cars. I watched a television programme last night and discovered that 10% of the cars sold were clocked. It is not an offence to cloc... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [848] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] This is important because one could be driving-----[Keane, Cáit] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [849] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] One could be driving a clocked car and not know it. If one's car's battery goes down and one jump-starts it, the clock can go wrong and one could be a criminal by default.[Keane, Cáit] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [849] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I make this statement with somewhat of a heavy heart, but I would like in the first instance to express my support for the Committee of Public Accounts in its investigation into the activities of State-funded institutions, including my own hospital, St. Vincent's Hospital Group. ... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [849] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I want to respond to Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh's concerns about rural broadband. Eircom is investing €400 million in delivering fibre-optic broadband to 1.2 million homes. It recently announced that it is extending that to 1.4 million homes - an extra 200,000 homes. It wil... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [849] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I second Senator Mark Daly's amendment to the Order of Business. In respect of NAMA, for a Member of this House of the stature of the Government Chief Whip to suggest somebody raise a matter of national importance that is in the public interest merely to milk it for publicity is... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [850] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The Senator is in danger of inheriting the name of "NAMA Coghlan" if he is not very careful.[Wilson, Diarmuid] | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [850] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I genuinely support Senator David Norris's request that Pope Francis be invited to address this House. He is a world leader, as well as leader of the Catholic Church, to which I belong. In the short time since he became pope, he has been a breath of fresh air to many people thr... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [850] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] The information Senator John Crown brought before the House this morning is deeply troubling. It indicates that there is much cleaning up to be done in many institutions in the State; therefore, the Government will have a busy schedule in 2014.
I join in supporting the call ... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [850] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I note that the Referendum Commission's report referred to by Senator Paschal Mooney shows that the majority in favour of the retention of this House was larger than was shown in the poll because of the confusing nature of the way the question was put. Support for the House is s... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [850] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] I have come from a meeting of the health committee at which the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, announced that the Family Support Agency would commence its work in January. This is a welcome development. More than 4,000 staff will transfer to... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [851] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] As there is no Order of Business tomorrow, I wish to compliment from the bottom of my heart the Minister, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, for her courage, conviction and compassion in introducing the Adoption (Amendment) Bill 2013 tomorrow. Senator Feargal Quinn and I raised many tim... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [851] |  |
 |  | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Thomas Byrne questioned why the Appropriation Bill was being taken without debate. That has been the procedure in this and the other House for some time. I have requested the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to send somebody and will try to have the Bill deba... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [851] |  |
| | 19/12/2013 | [Order of Business] Senator Mark Daly has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 17 be taken before No. 1." The Leader has indicated that he is prepared to accept the amendment. Is the amendment agreed to? Agreed. The Leader has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: ... | Vol-228 Book-10 Page [853] |  |
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