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29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill 2013 - Second Stage, to be taken at 11.45 a.m., with the contributions of group spokespersons not to exceed eight minutes and those of all other Senators not to exceed five minutes.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [563]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] What is the Government's opinion of the proceedings of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality and, in particular, the evidence of the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality? I raised the point yesterday in advance of the meeting beca...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [564]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] In the cold light of day it is absolutely disgraceful that the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality will not answer the questions of elected Members of these Houses who serve the people.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [564]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I have a degree of sympathy for Mr. Purcell because I have no doubt that the lawyers in the Department of Justice and Equality, in the Office of the Taoiseach and back channels of Government have told him not to respond to any questions relating to the resignation or forced retir...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [564]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It was as plain as the nose on the Leader, Senator Maurice Cummins’ face what would happen because of how the Government had dealt with this matter.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] If the Government does not get its act together and deal with this issue transparently, it will be one of many incidents that will bring it down before the end of the year. For the Taoiseach not to answer questions to which he has answers-----[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] -----and for a Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality not to answer questions is unbelievable.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I agree with Senator Darragh O’Brien that the cost of various commissions of inquiry is a matter of concern, but I have already acknowledged that a previous Government established a much better model of inquiry. I think Michael McDowell was the Minister for Justice and Equality ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] What example is shown when a senior public servant does not answer a committee’s questions?[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Fennelly commission of inquiry is charged with investigating a practice that apparently went on for some three decades in Garda stations in the State, the recording of telephone conversations.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It is also specifically investigating the resignation of the Garda Commissioner. That is included in that module.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Senator should allow Senator Ivana Bacik to speak without interruption. He has spoken already.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I listened with courtesy to what Senator Darragh O’Brien had to say. The substance of the Fennelly commission is this practice of recording telephone conversations. It is appropriate to have a commission of investigation-----[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It is also investigating the resignation of the former Garda Commissioner. What about that bit?[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] This practice went on for three decades under a range of Governments. It is certainly true that the Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality sought and it was agreed that the terms of reference would also include the events surrounding the departure of the former Garda C...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [565]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Ivana Bacik is not answering questions on the Order of Business. She is making her own request to the Leader on the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I am trying to assist her. She is obviously mixed up about the different modules.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I simply cannot make a point because I am being constantly interrupted.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Ivana Bacik is to speak without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The members of the committee asked the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality last night the questions which it was agreed were within its remit and powers.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The meeting lasted three hours. I could only attend the end of it because it clashed with another meeting, but it seemed to me there was a reluctance to answer - that is for sure. The Fennelly commission will have the appropriate powers of compellability and fact-finding and I ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] With all due respect, Senator Ivana Bacik has been somewhat disingenuous about the sequence of events she has attempted to outline. The core of the issue is that the Government decided in setting up the Fennelly commission that it was, as the Senatorcorrectly points out, to focu...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [566]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The imagination of my good friend, Senator Darragh O'Brien, has really run riot this morning. I know he has been blessed with a very fertile imagination, in fairness, and it is buoyed by certain recent events.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien mentioned senior civil servants who had done the State some good service.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I agree, but he was thrown under a bus, as it were, by the Taoiseach.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The people concerned have acted with the utmost propriety at all times. The Senator will have to wait. He and his party sought examination of issues in the public interest and we have agreed to that. I agree fully with Senator Ivana Bacik who indicated that the Fennelly report...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Paul Coghlan to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Taoiseach could have answered those questions here.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Senator has already spoken. Will he, please, allow Senator Paul Coghlan to continue?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] What the Senators are trying to imply could not happen or I believe does not happen between senior civil servants in the State. They cannot be treated as messenger boys.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [567]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Taoiseach told him to go to the Garda Commissioner's house, as the Senator knows.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Please allow Senator Paul Coghlan to make his contribution. Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It might have happened in a previous Government's time.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Senators should speak through the Chair. Is there a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Of course. I always have total respect for the Chair. Senator ivana Bacik is correct and we can have a debate in due course - or in early course - on all these matters.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It will be in approximately one year, when all the steam will have gone out of it.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Yesterday, the Minister for Health, Deputy James Reilly, addressed the Seanad about the reconfiguration of maternity services across hospital groups. He mentioned issues surrounding the procurement of the report which examines this. It has subsequently been brought to my attent...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [568]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I ask the Senator to refrain from naming people in the House who are not here to defend themselves.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] He is chairman of the hospital group in question and involved with the company which produced the report. It appears there may be a major conflict of interest in the commissioning of the report, and the Minister must make a clear statement that the report is to be withdrawn comp...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Senator cannot make allegations against individuals. Is there a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I have a number of pertinent questions for him. The person in question, the chair of the West/North West Hospitals Group, set up the company in 2004 and also appeared to be involved in plans to develop the €75 million Wyndale Clinic which was to be located on the grounds of Lett...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] That is completely out of order as the Senator is reflecting on an individual.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] What connection, if any, does the chairman have with Fine Gael?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I could rule the amendment out of order if the Senator continues.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It is very important as the Minister was not forthcoming when he had an opportunity yesterday to address these issues. He brought up the procurement issue, but he did not give us the full information he should have. We have seen decisions taken in the case of Ballinasloe-----[Ó...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I ask that the Minister come before the House to give us a full, frank and transparent report on the issues surrounding procurement of the report which considers the reorganisation of maternity services in the west and north west, as well as any matter around the chairmanship of ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [569]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I am sure the Leader will deal with that issue in his own time, but it is wrong to be impugning in this House the reputation of individuals, particularly when there are procedures in place that have withstood the test of time.[Hayden, Aideen]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [570]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I have asked questions. I have not impugned anybody's reputation.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [570]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] We are supposed to ask questions and call people to account.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [570]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I am sure the Leader will deal with the point.
The news today that two teenage girls were found hanging from a tree in northern India after they had been gang raped is horrific and it comes only a couple of days after a Pakistani woman who was three months pregnant was stoned...
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29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I second the proposal by Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh to amend the Order of Business. As any name mentioned today was mentioned yesterday by the Minister, I cannot see how anybody's reputation has been impugned.
I ask the Leader for a debate about the setting up or expansion ...
Vol-231 Book-11 Page [570]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I refer to a harrowing story that was highlighted in the Mail on Sunday at the weekend but overlooked owing to the election frenzy. It relates to a mass grave in Tuam, County Galway, where the remains of approximately 800 children - citizens of Ireland - were buried. The area i...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [571]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business, namely, that No. 11 be taken before No. 1.[Quinn, Feargal]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [571]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I welcome the announcement by the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport on a matter I raised in the Seanad based on an initiative started by Young Fine Gael. Young people from 16 to 18 years of age will now be eligible for student fares on Bus Éireann, Luas, DART, short hop ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [571]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] As our economic challenges continue to be a huge reality in the lives of parliamentarians, I highlight what I believe is a piece of low-hanging fruit, dressed up as the betting legislation. I urge the Leader to have a chat with the Minister for Finance, Deputy Michael Noonan, ab...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [572]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I congratulate Young Fine Gael and the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Leo Varadkar, for listening to it and introducing the transport initiative outlined by Senator Pat O'Neill. I asked the CSO to calculate figures in that regard because the savings made by sc...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [572]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The matter is being raised on the Adjournment today by Senator Katherine Zappone. I am sure she would give the Senator some time if she asked.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [572]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It is an issue that is to be raised on the Adjournment. Does the Senator have another issue for the Leader? I am sure Senator Katherine Zappone would give the Senator some time if she asked.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [572]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I met the assistant CEO. The issue is important. A report that has not been published is being used against parents. I want the Minister to ask for the report. The crèche is not being closed by the Minister. One must take all of the issues into consideration. Nurses have to...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [572]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Minister will answer some of those questions today.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] It is hard enough for parents to get out to work without having hindrances put in their way.[Keane, Cáit]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I agree with the comments of my colleague, Senator Pat O'Neill, on the electoral register. It is in a mess. Every individual living in the State or contributing to it should be entitled to a vote. It is wrong that people would be inadvertently removed from the register. The S...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Is the Senator supporting Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh's amendment?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Yes, I am. Will you read it because I only came into the Chamber when Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh was on his feet?[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] An amendment has been proposed and seconded calling on the Minister for Health to come to the House to discuss that subject.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I support the amendment. The Minister created absolute confusion yesterday. A report has been published which the Minister tried to rubbish by accusing the HSE of breaching procurement guidelines. Answers need to be given by the Minister regarding his knowledge of that breach,...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I congratulate the Minister for Health, Deputy James Reilly. Perhaps he might be here later, but I congratulate him in advance of his appearance. He was formally recognised this week by the World Health Organization for his work on tobacco control. The WHO identified him as a ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [573]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I agree with Senator Terry Brennan that there has been a lot of muscle-flexing by unions with regard to strikes. It is a pity that the very precarious position of the economy and the slim chance of recovery is being put at risk because of people trying to extract more from what ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [574]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I ask that the Minister come into the House to clarify such comments. If it is the case that these reports were carried out by the hospital groups and are politically motivated, that raises serious questions about the capacity of the CEO of the HSE. There are already questions ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [574]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Surely that confirms everything that Senator Marc MacSharry has been saying in this House in the past few weeks. The Minister started by dismissing it and then went on to confirm it. That is not the way for a Minister to act. The parties opposite did so poorly in the recent el...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [574]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I remind my colleagues that Friday, 6 June, is the closing date for submissions on the new national framework for suicide prevention. A group of people and I who are deeply interested in reducing the number of deaths by suicide got together in Killarney recently and have formula...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [574]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I very much regret the fact that Fianna Fáil Members and other Opposition spokespersons are continuing to scaremonger with regard to maternity services and the national review that is taking place.[Mullins, Michael]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [575]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Minister could not have been clearer in the contribution he made to the House. I very much welcome the fact that yesterday he confirmed, beyond doubt-----[Mullins, Michael]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [575]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] -----that there was no threat to maternity services at Portiuncula Hospital and that the services there would grow, be enhanced and further funded.
I also welcome the announcement yesterday of a framework agreement between the Minister for Health and the IMO which sets out a pr...
Vol-231 Book-11 Page [575]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I endorse my colleague’s observations about this weekend’s traffic and thank An Garda Síochána for launching a go slow campaign on the roads day tomorrow. This bank holiday weekend is the one in the year in which, proportionally, most people lose their lives on the roads. Perha...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [575]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] May I finish? I have not even started and you are interrupting me.[O'Keeffe, Susan]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Susan O’Keeffe to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Fianna Fáil had immense difficulties in bringing in the national cancer programme and eight centres of excellence, which caused enormous difficulty, particularly in the north west, because it meant services could not be delivered in the way they had in the past. At the time, it ...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Yesterday, the Minister for Health clarified the position on the review of maternity services in the west. I remind my colleagues across the floor of the House that in 2003 the then Government produced a report stating that by 2009 there would be 179 consultants in obstetrics an...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Colm Burke to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The Members opposite did absolutely nothing when there was plenty of money coming in to the Revenue Commissioners and the Exchequer. By 2010, there were 125 obstetrician consultants, 60 short of what Fianna Fáil set out in its 2003 target. Will Fianna Fáil Members please stop g...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Those targets were from 11 years ago. What about now?[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Please, Senators. Senator Colm Burke to continue, without interruption. Does the Senator have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [576]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Being involved in the legal profession, for anyone to produce a draft report like the one in question, I actually believe they have no knowledge of what is going on in the maternity services. It is a disgrace that someone drafted such a report without knowing what is going on in...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [577]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Yes, it would be appropriate to have a debate on it.[Burke, Colm]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [577]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] As the counting in the European elections ended at 4 a.m. this morning, I congratulate our successful candidates for the European Parliament, Fine Gael and Sinn Féin for winning four seats each. Jim Nicholson is now the longest serving MEP from the island of Ireland and Brian Cr...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [577]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] I want to raise the issue of live RTE coverage of the upcoming Special Olympics national finals in Limerick. The games will be held between 12 and 15 June, featuring 1,500 athletes competing in 14 sports competitions, with over 3,000 volunteers and thousands of family members an...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [577]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] The country will be missing out on this fantastic opportunity. This is also an ideal time for a debate on the Special Olympics to show our appreciation of the athletes and volunteers. I ask my colleagues to support me in calling on RTE to provide live coverage of the national g...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [577]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien raised several issues which he also raised in the past few days. The justice committee will deal with them and I certainly do not want to interfere in its work.
The Senator seems to have a crystal ball as to when elections will be held. I must have a...
Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] If the Leader’s party does not get its act together, the election result will be simple.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Ivana Bacik pointed to the appropriate powers of the Fennelly commission and called, as did other Members, for the regulation of crèches.
Senator Paschal Mooney mentioned the Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality. I understand the Secretary Genera...
Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] What about the question on the conflict of interest?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh is very good at never letting Members speak. He should try to listen to their replies. We have listened intently to what they have said and I am doing my best to reply. Freedom of speech is not a very good issue for the Senator. The review of mat...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Perhaps Senators might table an Adjournment matter to call for these answers rather than doing it second hand. I am only trying to point them in the right direction; it is their decision whether they want to go ahead with it.
Senator Aideen Hayden called for a debate with the ...
Vol-231 Book-11 Page [578]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] There is no licence to operate these machines in betting shops and the Revenue Commissioners should take immediate action to ensure they are removed. It is a major problem and I hope the Minister for Finance will tax online betting in the budget because it is long overdue. I ha...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [579]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate with the Minister for Health on the procurement of a report on the reconfiguration of maternity services in the north west be taken today." Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathaoi...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [580]
29/05/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Feargal Quinn has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That No. 11 by taken before No. 1." The Leader has indicated that he wishes to accept the amendment. Is the amendment agreed to? Agreed. Is the Order of Business, as amended, agreed to?[An Cathaoirleac...Vol-231 Book-11 Page [581]
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