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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Valuation (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2012 - Committee Stage (resumed), to be taken at the conclusion of the Order of Business; No. 2, Vehicle Clamping Bill 2014 - Report and Final Stages, to be taken at 2.30 p.m.; and No. 3, Private Members' business...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [41]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Colleagues may remember a very worthy fund-raising campaign that was all over Facebook during the summer, namely, the ice bucket challenge, in which thousands of people participated. Last night I noted that a new campaign has started on Facebook which probably marks the beginnin...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [41]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] No, on Facebook. Fewer than 500,000 people have submitted their information. News of major data protection breaches by Irish Water was verified last night. Ten cases involving individuals' personal bank details being sent to third parties have gone to the Data Protection Commi...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [42]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The Government has to realise it is not going to get its way. Instead of blaming executives and staff in Irish Water, it should take responsibility for the cack-handed way in which it tried to establish the company over the advice of independent consultants. As Senator Marie-Lo...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [42]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I apologise, but this is important. I am calling on Sinn Féin - because I am sure it has not done it - to clarify whether An Garda Síochána and the PSNI are aware of the names of all the people that the IRA interrogated and sent away from their communities, including paedophiles...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [42]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] This is something that needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency and I call on Sinn Féin to give its commitment that it will provide the list of people it dealt with or against whom accusations were made to the proper authorities both in the North of Ireland and in the Republ...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [42]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I was glad to hear the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government state on "Prime Time" last night that he was meeting Mr. John Tierney of Irish Water this morning and acknowledge that the Cabinet needs to reassure people and give them greater certainty on the s...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [43]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] There have been clear and serious problems with the way it has been rolled out and it is important that the Cabinet moves swiftly in this regard. I asked for the Minister to come to the House on foot of colleagues' requests yesterday, and I understand his office has responded an...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [43]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Yesterday I spoke about Irish Water. Senator Terry Leyden might have been correct that I was somewhat convoluted in my delivery, but I will make it simple today. Water forms 60% of our bodies and 60% of everything we eat. It is the only reason we are alive. We cannot live wit...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [43]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Is the Senator proposing an amendment to the Order of Business?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [44]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Yes. I propose that to put our minds at rest the Minister, Deputy Alan Kelly, come to the House to answer urgent questions about Irish Water and the impasse to date, as a result of which the people are going crazy.[O'Donnell, Marie-Louise]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [44]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Thanks to the Leader and the Deputy Leader, there were 16 hours of debate on the water issue in this House. Nineteen of my amendments were rejected by the Minister, but the Seanad did try to play its role and improve its value. Apparently, the debate in the Dáil was completely ...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [44]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I am concerned about a letter issued by the human resources section of the Health Service Executive, HSE, to all hospitals advising them that an agency doctor can only be employed for a period of two months in a hospital. There is a huge problem because this year over €250 milli...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [45]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business, that No. 58, motion No. 9, be taken before No. 1. This would ensure the Seanad would consider our motion which calls on the Government to recognise formally the state of Palestine and do everything it can to help to secure a viabl...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [45]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] These are points the Senator could make during the debate.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] -----or buying the Israeli line that recognition of Palestine is something in Israel's gift in future negotiations, nor should we. I thank the 31 Senators who signed our motion supporting the recognition of Palestine. I also welcome the Palestinian ambassador and his colleagues...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I welcome the Palestinian ambassador and his staff to the Visitors Gallery.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Last Sunday was a relatively quiet day for sports both at national and international level, but it was one of the most important days of the year at club level. A total of 15 titles were decided last week. It was the most important day in the history of the Ballincollig club in...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] It is very relevant and the last time I raised the issue-----[Landy, Denis]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] -----you tried to rule me out of order, but, please, give me the chance to develop the point.[Landy, Denis]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [46]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Nobody following rugby or soccer was told to go there. It is about time RTE was brought to heel on this matter. I call on the Leader to bring in the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources to put manners on RTE in relation to our entitlement to hear what is go...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [47]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I commend Senator Averil Power for her contribution today and the motion being tabled, which Sinn Féin supports fully. It is good that it has received cross-party if not all-party support or all-Member support. To have the number of Senators who have put their names to the moti...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [47]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] No. I assume Fianna Fáil will do so. I will allow it to do so, but I am happy the names of the three Sinn Féin Senators are being put to it.
I raise the issue of the technological university applications and put a question on that directly to the Leader of the House. As the ...
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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I attended the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly meeting yesterday with many colleagues and used the opportunity to raise the Maíria Cahill case. We were addressed by Dr. Andrew Murrison, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Northern Ireland Office. The same day, th...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [47]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I second the motion tabled by Senator Averil Power and signed by the majority of Members. I thank the Leader of the House who I understand will accept the motion as a unanimous decision of the Seanad. It is an historic day. As the founder of the Friends of Palestine in the Hou...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [48]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I am a signatory of Senator Averil Power's motion and ask the Leader for an early debate on it. It is official Labour Party policy to support a two-state solution.
I refer to the sale of PTSB's subprime Springboard mortgage business to Mars Capital. That loan book is valued a...
Vol-235 Book-2 Page [48]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I join Senator Denis Landy in his remarks on RTE's coverage of Gaelic games. It is a poor showing in respect of the county finals which are the most important thing to happen to various parishes and villages around the country and do not get the coverage they deserve.[Heffernan,...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [48]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] That is fair enough. I take the opportunity to congratulate the Kilmallock senior hurlers on their fantastic victory at the weekend. The celebrations are probably still going on.[Heffernan, James]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [48]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] One second. I am just after standing up. I welcome the ambassador, Mr. Abdul Abdelrazek, to the Visitors Gallery and note my support for Senator Averil Power's proposed amendment to the Order of Business.[Heffernan, James]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [49]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] A mock court was held in 2002. I support Senator Darragh O'Brien. The Sinn Féin leadership has to face up to this issue. It is the same type of justice we saw take place in the Catholic Church, namely, things were covered up and perpetrators were moved on to other places to co...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [49]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I join in the welcome to the Palestinian ambassador to the House. I compliment Senator Averil Power on her motion. Like every Member of the House, I want to see an end to the conflict between Israel and Palestine. The Government will continue to do everything possible at an in...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [49]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I endorse the comments of other Members on the motion regarding the establishment of a Palestinian state. I understand there will be a unanimous decision on this by the House, which I welcome. There needs to be a debate on the issue. We need to develop a strategy because for t...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [50]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I call for debate on the way we do business. We are doing nothing to help the people in this country to access the public service. We established the HSE to replace what I considered to be a working health board system. It has been a disaster. We established Irish Water to re...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [50]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I welcome and support Senator Averil Power's motion concerning the recognition of the state of Palestine.[Norris, David]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [51]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] When I hear Senator David Norris on Ben Bradlee, he is correct on the prurient pap we are getting unfortunately.
I cannot help thinking the Member opposite is overreacting somewhat on the question on Irish Water.[Coghlan, Paul]
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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I am not actually directing my comments at the Senator but at my good friend, Senator Darragh O’Brien. He likes to jump up and down and put on a bit of a dance on issues he perceives to be populist.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [51]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The Minister is ensuring a more responsive system is put in place. This very day he is meeting with the chief executive officer of Irish Water.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [51]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senators opposite refer to the Seanad but the environment committee, which comprises representatives from this and the other House, is examining the matter. This matter is still in its infancy.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] As Senator Marie-Louise O’Donnell reminded us today, water is a most important commodity, without which we cannot do, and there is a significant cost to provide it.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I reminded the House of that in a different context.[O'Donnell, Marie-Louise]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Due to appalling construction, in one estate in Tralee, County Kerry, people are suffering lead poisoning.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The truth is breakdowns in the water system were not being handled. What is being attempted now with the new water company will be much of an improvement.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Paul Coghlan to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] As some of us discovered in recent days, water costs in England, Scotland and Wales, run into thousands a year. Here it will be done much more cheaply and efficiently. Therefore, hold your whist a short while.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I am glad to be associated with Senator Averil Power’s motion in recognising Palestine. Senator Terry Leyden referred to the great work done by Brian Lenihan Snr. as Minister. Traditional support for the Palestinian people is deeply ingrained in the Irish people. As Minister f...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [52]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I want to address the courageous and troubling account of the series of events raised by Maíria Cahill regarding the sexual abuse she endured as a teenager and the way in which it was handled when she came forward, particularly by the leader of the Sinn Féin Party, as well as the...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [53]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I also want to raise the issue of symphysiotomy payment scheme again. We were recently briefed on it and I would like if it were introduced as soon as possible.[Moran, Mary]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [53]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business seeking the attendance of the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection in the House today to outline a timeline on the critical issue of pension reform in the light of the data which came out today from the Pensions Authority. C...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [53]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The system is insane. I will call for a vote to ask the Minister for Social Protection to come to the House to address the matter because this is a national emergency. It may not look like an emergency beside the next election but it certainly will be one.[Crown, John]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [54]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I second Senator John Crown's amendment.
I commend Senator Averil Power for her amendment on the recognition of the state of Palestine. The House has been to the forefront in the matter over the years. A former Leader of the House, former Senator Mick Lanigan, was very involv...
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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The good management and governance of the House requires a little common sense, flexibility and goodwill. Appropriate and genuine Order of Business requests have been presented by Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell in respect of the water charges fiasco, as it could be called at thi...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [54]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Paul Coghlan should remember to stay silent when he is winning.[Daly, Mark]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [55]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I look forward to the Leader coming back to Senators Marie-Louise O'Donnell and John Crown. I am keen to have the respective Ministers before the House and a meaningful debate. Certainly, this should be arranged for no later than early next week, if it cannot happen today or to...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [55]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] We all recognise that there are states in the Middle East that have no wish for the state of Israel to survive and that is something we should discuss also. We need a full balanced debate not simply a call to populism. I call on the Leader to set aside time for that debate rath...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [55]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I commend Senator Averil Power for bringing forward the motion. The thrust of the motion is to have a debate and raise valid concerns. The people of Palestine deserve a sovereign right to be recognised as a state. I believe everyone in the House would support the general thrus...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [55]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] In the light of the Comptroller and Auditor General's recent report, I would like to have a debate on health spending.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [56]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I welcome the United States ambassador to the House for his first visit but, I hope, not his last. It is a long overdue visit. We will obviously be liaising with him in regard to the issue of the 50,000 undocumented Irish living in the United States. It is good to have a great...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [56]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I support all that has been said in regard to the motion. I have no difficulty about a move towards recognising Palestine as a state. This is, in fact, policy which is accepted even by Israel itself, I believe, in terms of a two-state solution. I echo the remarks of my colleag...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [57]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I join other Members in welcoming the US and Palestinian ambassadors to the House.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [57]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I also welcome the Moroccan ambassador. As I cannot see any of the ambassadors as they are sitting behind me, I am depending on Members on the other side of the House to inform me.
Senator Darragh O'Brien raised the question of Irish Water which was also raised by quite a numb...
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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] My office has been in contact with the Minister's office on several occasions in the past few weeks to ask him to come to the House and he has acceded to that request and agreed to come on 5 November. The House is not due to sit next week. If it wishes to proceed and vote on th...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [57]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] A lot of water will flow under the bridge before then.[Leyden, Terry]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [57]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] On Irish Water, certainly mistakes have been made, as the Minister has acknowledged. However, what were we to do? Should we just have adopted the Fianna Fáil policy of having a €400 flat charge for the past two years, ignored everybody else and imposed it?[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [57]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] It has been Fine Gael policy since 2009. It has been in charge for three and a half years.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] That is not what we are trying to do. We are trying to fix the problem and make up for the errors made.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Fine Gael has been in government for three and a half years.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Order, please. The Leader to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] -----Fianna Fáil refused to deal with the problem-----[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] It set it up as a private entity, separate from-----[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] It is the Government's problem. It made the mess. It should clean it up and stop blaming everyone else. That does not wash anymore.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Please, Senator. The Leader to continue, without interruption.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I know that Senator Darragh O'Brien does not like to be reminded of the facts, but Fianna Fáil would not deal with the matter.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Fine Gael has been in government for three and a half years and is still not used to it.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Will the Senator, please, allow the Leader to give his response?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Will the Senator, please, allow the Leader to respond to the questions raised on the floor of the House?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I tried to answer the Senator, but he shouted me down.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] We will accept it for what it is. The Senator does not want to hear the facts.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] I note the Senator's points about Sinn Féin which were also made by Senators Cáit Keane, Mary Moran and James Heffernan. It is a valid point that Sinn Féin Members should give the names of the people dealt with in the kangaroo courts, especially for child and sexual abuse. They...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [58]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] The Senator is missing, which is why it is quiet this week.[O'Brien, Darragh]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [60]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Aideen Hayden asked when legislation would be introduced to protect people in difficulty with mortgages from sub-prime lenders that had had their loan books sold. I will inquire of the Minister for Finance when it is intended to introduce such legislation.
Senator Mich...
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22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Darragh O'Brien has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That a debate with the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government on the difficulties in Irish Water and the question of the suspension of water charges be taken today." The amendment ...Vol-235 Book-2 Page [60]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] People cannot wait until 5 November because they are broke. It is a disgrace that we are not debating the matter today.[Byrne, Thomas]Vol-235 Book-2 Page [61]
22/10/2014 [Order of Business] Senator Averil Power has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 58, motion No. 9, be taken before No. 1." The Leader has indicated that he is prepared to accept the amendment. Is it agreed to? Agreed.
Senator John Crown has proposed an amendment to the Ord...
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