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04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Redress for Women Resident in Certain Institutions Bill 2014 - Committee and Remaining Stages, to be taken at 1.15 p.m., and No. 61, motion 17, to be taken at 4 p.m., with the time allocated for the debate not to exceed two hours.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [436]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] In the past 24 hours, Members of the Seanad received a leaked report relating to overspending by the HSE. The Comptroller and Auditor General's office is involved and this is a very serious matter, as it raises questions yet again about the competency and efficiency of the HSE. ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [436]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I have also asked a number of times for a debate on child care and we should have one in this House. It would be best if we waited until we received the report commissioned by the Minister, Deputy Reilly, on the best mechanism to provide affordable child care. Senators may not ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [437]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I did not interrupt the Senator. Generally, this is not done through the classroom and certainly not through teachers, as that would not be appropriate.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [437]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I ask for a debate on educational reform in the context of the ongoing talks on the junior cycle. I regret that there has been a failure to make further progress in those talks. Everyone, and certainly every parent, is agreed on the need to ensure greater emphasis on continuous...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [437]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I rise to support Senator Paschal Mooney's call for an urgent debate to be arranged with the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs on childhood, child care, early education, the coherence of all of those issues and also costs. Therefore, I must disagree with my right honourabl...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [438]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I rise to raise something that I feel very strongly about, and I am sure, and hope, that my colleagues in this House will feel equally strongly about the matter. I refer to the surreptitious attempt by management in the Oireachtas to cut the wages of ushers by 5.6% without refer...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [438]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is a matter for the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [438]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] There are people in this House who live in County Dublin but get €25,000 in travelling expenses, which is more than somebody who joins the usher service would receive. We pay tribute to them on a regular basis in this House. We say how wonderful they are and talk about the way ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [438]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is a matter for the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Yes, but we have an input into it. To hell with the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission. Damn them if they are going to do this.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] If they are going to put the screws on the ordinary workers in this House, then there is a moral obligation on us to protest about it.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The matter is not governed by a Minister. It is the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission that deals with that issue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] We can make statements on the matter. We can make statements on the colour of the sky if we feel like doing so. It is entirely within our powers to have statements. How can the Cathaoirleach say we cannot make statements on this matter?[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Amendments to the Order of Business are proposed by the Leader.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is the fattest one I have heard in a very long time. They are proposed. Everybody has a right to propose amendments to the Order of Business.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is why I am proposing it. I request humbly that the Government, in the interests of the structures of this House, hold such a debate.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [439]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] There is no member of the Government responsible for the matter.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That does not matter. We can still make statements. We make statements on all kinds of things that are not the responsibility of members of the Government.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The statements are made by the Minister and then the responses are made by the Minister.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Not at all. Statements are made by ordinary Members of this House. We had statements yesterday and it was not down to the Minister but the ordinary Members of this House.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I call Senator Paul Coghlan. The Senator's amendment is out of order.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I ask the Leader to find a way in which we can reflect our disgust at the treatment of our fellow workers in this establishment.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] It is not a formal amendment and is out of order completely. I call Senator Paul Coghlan.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I ask all the Senators who speak after me to support me.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Only 25% of the Seanad is here. The way reforms have affected the Seanad has resulted in nobody being here for the Order of Business.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] We are all aware that the national lottery has experienced three outages or interruptions in service in recent weeks, including the cancellation of one draw. I am concerned about the impact these interruptions could have on sales at ticket terminals and that it would drive lott...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] What about the ushers? The Senator forgot to say something about the ushers.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [440]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is a matter of concern too but I accept the ruling of the Chair.[Coghlan, Paul]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Good. It is a matter of concern and I thank the Senator.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I call Senator Leyden and ask Senator Paul Coghlan to resume his seat.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I would like to second the amendment to the Order of Business proposed by Senator Paschal Mooney. The points raised by Senator Norris are very important and it is the first I have heard of a proposed wage cut. I will be alerting our representatives on the Houses of the Oireacht...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] As far as I am concerned, all types of tobacco and nicotine cause cancer and they should all be treated equally, regardless of what the product is.[Landy, Denis]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I refer to a debate we held in this House on the future of rural Ireland with the Minister of State with special responsibility for rural economic development, Deputy Ann Phelan. During the debate on the CEDRA report, I called for a special task force to be set up to examine and...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [441]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] It is disgraceful in a period of recovery that somebody in the organisation is seeking to cut the wages of people who are on very low wages as it stands.[Landy, Denis]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I add my voice to Senator Norris's concern but I would like further details because I have only just heard the news this morning. It may be part of something bigger, but if such a thing is happening, I would share Senator Norris's concern. I am not sure how we should handle it ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] As I said to Senator Norris, those concerns will be brought to the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission, which deals with this issue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] We should be allowed to express our strong feelings.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] There is no Minister with responsibility for the issue to take queries on the matter in the House.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The commission is responsible and it should take our views into account.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] There are Members of this House on the commission and I have no doubt that the issues will be taken to the commission.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [442]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I mention my concern but I also understand there may be a technical difficulty about how we handle it. I will leave that to the Leader to decide.
I was impressed during the week to hear and read what the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Deputy Brendan Howlin, had to...
Vol-238 Book-8 Page [443]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I accept the ruling of the Cathaoirleach on the matter raised by Senator Norris to the effect that ushers' pay is a matter for the Commission but it would be appropriate to request, through the Leader, that the Commission give Members of this House a briefing on the matter. Peop...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [443]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I support the call by Senator Mullins for a debate on the diaspora. The Leader promised such a debate previously. There are many laudable elements in the strategy that was brought forward but, sadly, the issue around representation and voting rights for the diaspora has been le...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [443]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] -----to discuss workers' right issues and in regard to that we could bring up the situation of the ushers.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I have ruled on this. It is a matter of the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That does not mean that we cannot talk about it. We are not to be muzzled like poodles.[Norris, David]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I suggest that the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation could be asked in to discuss workers' rights and as part of that we could certainly bring up the issues that have been brought up this morning as regards workers' rights in these Houses. I have concerns about this a...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I have already ruled that this is not a matter for any particular Minister. This is a matter for the Oireachtas commission. It is internal to the Houses of the Oireachtas and it will be dealt with by the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I accept the Cathaoirleach's ruling but workers' rights are workers' right no matter where they are working.
Last week, following threats to republican families in south Armagh who have been forthright in their support for the PSNI and in their opposition to criminality, a boob...
Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Will the Leader and the Upper House condemn the attempt to murder Francis McCabe junior?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [444]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Will the Leader ask the Taoiseach to ensure adequate resources are given to An Garda Síochána to investigate properly the activities of these criminals and will he ensure there is full co-operation with the PSNI and that the PSNI does what it is paid to do? Will the Government s...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The Senator is way over time. I call Senator Hayden.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] -----of support and solidarity to the people of north Louth and south Armagh that it stands with them in their opposition to criminality and in support of their right to a policing service that protects them and their neighbours?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I welcome the commitment by the Minister, Deputy Kelly, over the weekend that he intends to move to regulate rent increases in the private rented sector. This is an issue that has achieved support from all sides of this House, not least because one in five families in our countr...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Like other colleagues, I support Senator Norris and I want to do that while fully respecting the Cathaoirleach's decision that we do not have a role in regard to this matter. I refer to the proposal to reduce people's wages by 5.6% without any discussion. These are public serva...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The point I am making is that there is no need to go any place. There are nine Members of both Houses on the Oireachtas Commission. It is the Oireachtas commission that deals with this. No Minister deals with it. It is an in-house matter.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [445]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That is what I am saying; I am agreeing with the Cathaoirleach. The onus is on us as Members to pursue these matters with the Members of this House who are on the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission because it is not acceptable that these people are being subjected to working co...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] There have been three major breakdowns of this network in the past number of months. Retailers are being subjected to much hassle as a result of having to check tickets from individuals who come into their outlets because the proper software has not been put in place for people ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Furthermore, I would like an analysis carried out into how much of a reduction there has been in the amount of prize money paid out since the new owners of the lottery have taken over?[Wilson, Diarmuid]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] In regard to Senator Leyden's outburst performance, which is what it was, it was nothing more than a performance in this House-----[Kelly, John]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] -----where he comes in gives us a load of bluster and he is gone within seconds, and he goes out of the Chamber with a smile on his face.[Kelly, John]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Kelly, we do not allude to anybody who leaves the House.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Kelly is completely out of order in raising that.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] He probably was in Buswells or somewhere else-----[Kelly, John]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] -----but he comes in today to look at this passed.[Kelly, John]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] For the information of the House, Senator Leyden was on parliamentary duties as a member of the Joint Committee on European Union Affairs and was unable to be in the House. He apologised for same and I covered for him.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [446]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] For the benefit of the House, Senator Mooney might tell Senator Leyden that I raised the issue here in the House yesterday with the Minister and I was the only dissenting voice.[Kelly, John]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I am aware Senator Kelly did and I established that as well.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Since I was elected, I have been finding it difficult to figure out the rationale of decision makers in this country. In Dublin, we have the second best fire and ambulance service in the world. It is second behind Seattle. Now we have a city manager who wants to disassemble it...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I sympathise with the issue raised by Senator Ó Clochartaigh of the McCabe family in Northern Ireland. Any decent person must express concern about a terrorist attack.[Bradford, Paul]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] If we want to put it in context, 20 years ago another McCabe family on this island suffered a grievous moment of terror when a family member and a loved member of the Garda was slaughtered in the line of duty. At the time, it would have to be said, there was not very much concer...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Bradford seems to be stuck in the past. He has not really moved on, has he?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] To look to the future, we can never forget the past. We can never forget the losses, the pain, the hurt and the suffering. I am surprised-----[Bradford, Paul]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I, more than anybody, have made that point in this House and have called for a truth and reconciliation commission. I have no difficulty in being sympathetic towards all sides, but I agree that we require that balance.
What I wanted to raise this morning was my surprise at the...
Vol-238 Book-8 Page [447]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The same gentleman, who, presumably, never in his life created any job or supported any enterprise, or supported any business, made the bizarre statement that business people across this country are stuffing their back pockets with loot. The same business people, the 200,000 sel...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [448]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] -----such as that from a leading trade union member. I hope that there will be realism at the table of economic dialogue, not some sort of claptrap ideological debate which would be more in tune with the former Eastern European policies of the 1970s.[Bradford, Paul]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [448]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I agree with Senator Bradford's comments on the self-employed. Many self-employed people who ran small businesses over the past four to five years in difficult financial circumstances continued to pump money in from their savings in order to keep companies going and workers empl...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [448]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I request a debate with the Minister for Education and Skills on an issue that I have already raised in this House - that is, the Department's attempt to seek large amounts of additional information on pupils. School principals are being instructed to gather information, includi...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [448]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] This is the culture of spin that I am talking about. This is what taxpayers' money is paying HSE public service officials to do - that is, to make themselves look good by briefing each other about the bad news in advance. We should not be paying for that.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [449]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Kelly stated how good the ambulance service is, and it is good. I heard about a case in Knocklyon, in my constituency, last week in which one person was waiting three and a half hours for an ambulance. I presume it is something like this that garners attention, whether ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [449]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I would like a debate on milk and the lifting of quotas in the dairy industry. We need to tease this out. I am glad to hear that a debate on the dairy industry is taking place in the Dáil. It is almost being painted like a new Celtic tiger, perhaps a milk tiger, but I am not s...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [450]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I support the call for a debate on the self-employed and small and medium-sized businesses. I acknowledge the role they have played and are playing. We started off with an initiative to ask each of the small and medium-sized businesses to employ one additional worker. There ar...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [450]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Is the Senator looking for a debate on the matter?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [451]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I certainly am and it will be a worthwhile one because it is a worthwhile and very successful story. I acknowledge the role played by the tourism industry in our economic recovery. No doubt the initiatives by the Government such as reducing airport tax to zero and the 9% VAT ra...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [451]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I am asking about what I would call a "no-brainer", namely, the Public Health (Availability of Defibrillators) Bill 2013, which Senator Quinn brought to the House towards the end of 2013. I bumped into a really superb paramedic last week who told me about a 15 year old girl in a...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [451]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Before I begin, I wish to confirm to the House that I understand the separation of powers between the Judiciary and the State. I call on the Leader to arrange an all-day debate on several matters. The first of those matters is sentencing. Some of the sentences handed down by m...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The Senator should not comment on individuals. The people involved can be readily identified.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The case in question is in the public domain in any event.[Sheahan, Tom]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] That does not matter. Those involved are not here to defend themselves. The Senator should not comment on individual decisions handed down by judges either.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] A couple from the part of the country in which I live travelled to Australia recently in order to visit their daughter. Both were very badly injured when they were involved in a car accident that involved one fatality. The person who caused the accident was incarcerated within ...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Before I reply to the Order of Business, I note that there are only seven or eight Members present. Approximately 25 Senators made contributions on the Order of Business. Where did they go?[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [452]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The Leader should ask the Taoiseach to condemn it as well.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [454]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] They will certainly have support from this side of the House in condemning all violent acts against individuals in this country.[Cummins, Maurice]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [454]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] The Leader should ask the Taoiseach to do the same.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [454]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Hayden raised the issue of rents and argued that an information campaign informing tenants of their rights should be instituted. I support her comments in that regard and hopefully the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government or a Minister of State at...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [454]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] I will consider that response and thank the Leader for it.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [456]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] Senator Paschal Mooney has moved an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate with the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs to clarify the Government policy on child care and alleviating the financial burden on parents arising from child care costs be taken today." I...Vol-238 Book-8 Page [457]
04/03/2015 [Order of Business] In light of the Leader's response I am not pressing the amendment.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-238 Book-8 Page [457]
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