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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, motion re Twelfth Report of the Seanad Committee on Procedure and Privileges, to be taken without debate at the conclusion of the Order of Business; No. 2, motion re Health and Social Care Professionals Act 2005 (Section 95(3)) (Variation of title:...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [251]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] A guillotine.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [251]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Political reform - absolutely.
Rural Ireland has been abandoned by the Government. Some 20 general practitioner, GP, posts have remained vacant for more than three years. According to the Irish Medical Organisation, IMO, 20% of GP posts will be vacant within five years and th...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I call Senator Martin Conway and congratulate him on his new role.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [252]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Five years into my time as a Member of this House, I am being asked to fill in. I am always happy to do so.[Conway, Martin]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [252]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] He will be back.[Daly, Mark]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [252]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Bill referred to by Senator Mark Daly is an interesting one. I did not realise that the copyright had run out on the national anthem. I was not even aware copyright was applicable to national anthems. The Bill is worthy of discussion by the Whips and I propose to suggest s...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [252]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator's time has expired.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [252]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I thought when I took up this position that my allocated speaking time would be longer.
There has been much discussion on the United Kingdom's plan for its future in the European Union, a referendum on which will be held next year or the year after. We have an important role t...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seeking a debate on the matter?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [253]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] We need to engage at senior level in that debate. This House equally has a role to play in that discourse and deliberation. In that regard, I suggest a debate in this House would be timely and prudent.[Conway, Martin]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [253]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Before I call on Senator David Norris, I am sure Members of the House will join me in welcoming Councillor Marcia D'Alton from Cork County Council to the Visitors Gallery.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [253]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I join in the Cathaoirleach's welcome to the distinguished councillor. Earlier this morning some of my colleagues and I had a meeting with representatives of the Cork Institute of Technology, which is concerned about the Government's proposals for legislation in this area.
I a...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seeking a debate on the matter?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [254]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Yes, I am, if that is the only way I can raise it in the House. However, I am not expecting a debate on it. In terms of popularity, a large number of people listen to this programme on Sunday mornings, unlike the programme about modern music, which is an hour or two of unmercif...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [254]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I welcome the announcement by the Insolvency Service of Ireland of the increase of 70% in 2015 in the number of people achieving permanent solutions to their insolvency problems. This has been welcomed by New Beginnings and Fianna Fáil. A number of people have credited the impr...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [254]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I echo the comments made by my friend and colleague, Senator Mark Daly, about the Government's neglect of rural Ireland. The people who live in rural Ireland - I happen to live in County Leitrim, but this is mirrored throughout the country - can see at first hand the impact Gove...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [254]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Are they going to sign a pledge on that one?[Daly, Mark]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Exactly. Who is going to believe those in the Labour Party who say they are going to reduce university fees by €500?[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It is Alice in Wonderland.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It is "Ripley's Believe It or Not!"[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The idea of trying to buy the public when, at the same time, the road network is crumbling beneath our feet is baffling. Representatives from the National Transport Authority told members at a meeting of the Joint Committee on Transport and Communications in the past 12 months t...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I support Senator Martin Conway's call for a debate before we end this term with the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport on all the positive things that have happened in tourism in recent years. When the Government took over in 2011, it rightly identified the significant c...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [255]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I second Senator David Norris's motion. Truthfully, every time I read the words "without debate", I shiver. What are we doing here if we are going to take things without debate? I can understand the need for it sometimes when certain regulations are coming through. However, i...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [256]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I welcome the publication yesterday of the second national strategy on domestic, sexual and gender-based violence 2016 t0 2021. I commend the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, for her efforts in this regard and, in particular, giving political priorit...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [256]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Fad is atáimid inár suí anseo ar maidin, tá naonúr teaghlach de chuid an Lucht Siúil ag dul isteach chuig Comhairle Cathrach na Gaillimhe ag rá go bhfuil siad gan dídean.
Nine Traveller families from Galway who have been living at a dump for the past six months and face evictio...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I wish to raise the issue of drugs and criminality. Senators heard about the terrible incident in Cork this week involving six people who were left in hospital by the drug 2C-B. They were so psychotic that they were naked, the walls were covered in blood and they did not even r...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [257]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I support Senators David Norris and Feargal Quinn. It is appalling that we would allow changes to the privileges and practices of this House without a debate.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [258]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I thought I had better rebut some of the comments made. First, Senator Paschal Mooney referred to rural Ireland being forgotten about by the Government. The fact is Fianna Fáil closed more Garda stations and post offices than the Government.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Would the Senator agree that the Government accelerated the process?[Walsh, Jim]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] In the past four and a half to five years employment has gone way up, while unemployment has come down to below 9%.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] What about emigration?[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Eamonn Coghlan to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Recent statistics show that job creation in rural Ireland stands up as much as it does in urban Ireland.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Not in iob creation.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Under the 2012 Action Plan for Jobs 60% more jobs were created in rural Ireland.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seeking a debate on the matter?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I just want to point out the facts.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Does the Senator have a question for the Deputy Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It is all about keeping the recovery going.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I hope the Senator sends that story to rural Ireland.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Mark Daly's comments-----[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Eamonn Coghlan to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That is going down well in rural Ireland. The Senator is losing votes by the second.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Eamonn Coghlan to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Coming from a Dublin-based Senator, that is going down a storm in rural Ireland. The Senator should keep saying it and he will-----[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Does Senator Eamonn Coghlan have a question for the Deputy Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator should keep it going.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Like Senator Mark Daly, I would like to refer to "The Soldier's Song".[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] On a point of information, is there an election in the offing by any chance?[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [259]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Does Senator Eamonn Coghlan have a question for the Deputy Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I did not get to speak yet. I only wanted to pass a comment on Senator Paschal Mooney's comments.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator is almost out of time. Does he have a question for the Leader?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Yes, I have. In reference to Senator Mark Daly's comments on Amhrán na bhFiann, "The Soldier's Song" - this will be a little longwinded because the Cathaoirleach would not let me in because of all the interruptions - I was surprised to hear that the copyright was not protected. ...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator is way over time.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Peadar Kearney wrote it in 1907 and in 1923 Liam Ó Rinn gave the Irish rendition, but it is correct that we need to copyright for the national anthem. I support this in every way. The Government bought it in 1933 for £1,000 and, unfortunately, copyright ceased 40 years after Pe...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I refer briefly to my colleague, Senator Eamonn Coghlan, who is living in the suburban reality of Dublin. It is not the same in County Donegal or the west.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator came to Dublin and look at all the jobs that are-----[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The jobs are not being created.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Brian Ó Domhnaill to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The reality is that 30% of the 18 to 30 year age group in my county have emigrated since 2011. The opportunities they are obtaining are not in this jurisdiction, they are overseas. We cannot say that is a good statistic.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That was then; this is now.[Coghlan, Eamonn]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That is only one county. The figure comes from the CSO. It is not a good statistic. I am not making a political point, but I am expressing the reality. Rural Ireland is struggling. The economic recovery that we see is predominantly in the capital and interurban areas. The f...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [260]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seeking a debate on the matter?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That is wrong.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I support the call made by my colleagues for a debate on tourism. I acknowledge the achievements of tourism and the number of jobs created. In doing so I acknowledge the voluntary contribution of a total of 850 local communities, north, south, east and west, and the part they h...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That is a village.[Walsh, Jim]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] -----where in excess of 400 jobs have been created by voluntary organisations that have worked for the betterment of their community. There would be great celebrations in any town or village on hearing an announcement of 400 jobs. One of the Senators instanced his county of Cla...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I agree with Senator Gerard P. Craughwell on the question of debating the Technological Universities Bill. It would be remiss in the long-term interests of the country's educational prospects if we were to rush to put in place structures about which there is great uncertainty. ...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [261]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I join my party's acting leader, Senator Mark Daly, in acknowledging that today marks the 97th anniversary of the opening session of the First Dáil, a body which embraced the Proclamation and the vision of our patriots of 1916. I refer to one of his comments. He said Ireland wa...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [262]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I was somewhat inspired when I heard the interplay between the Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael Senators on various issues, including the national anthem. I kept thinking that perhaps we should entitle today's proceedings "Civil War: The Musical".
On a very serious note, it is probab...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator is out of time.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [264]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I propose an amendment to the Order of Business that the Minister for Health come to the House to discuss the emergency in Cork.[Crown, John]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [264]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I second that amendment.
Ireland is facing a major choice in the next few weeks and is currently facing a severe crisis. We have a Government in place which seems more than happy to blame the previous Government for problems that arise and which is more than happy to take cr...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I will respond first to Senator Mark Daly and the other Senators who referred to the situation in rural Ireland, the rural GP practice scheme in particular. The Government is committed to ensuring patients throughout the State will continue to have access to GP services, especia...Vol-245 Book-5 Page [264]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] By whom?[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [266]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] By people from all corners but especially in the south east. There has been massive momentum behind it, but it is important to get its terms right.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [266]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] That may be the case, but the matter is eminently worthy of debate.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [266]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] We obtained legal advice on them and I am not sure anyone could disagree with their contents.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [266]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I do not say that, but there is an historical context in which the matter could be placed. The Deputy Leader referred to a High Court case.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [266]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It was Howlin v. Morris. The new Standing Orders are straightforward and simply give effect to the constitutional imperative under Article 15.10. Therefore, I cannot accept the amendment proposed to the Order of Business.
The Senator also referred to the axing of the RTE prog...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Perhaps we might share it.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [267]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] We could.
Senator Aideen Hayden welcomed the increased in the number of people achieving permanent solutions through the Insolvency Service of Ireland. I agree with what she said in that regard.
Senator Paschal Mooney raised the matter of the neglect of rural Ireland. I t...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I was curious about the offer of €500.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [267]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Is Deputy Ruairí Quinn going to sign it?[Daly, Mark]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [267]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] In the interests of unity, I am going to agree with the Senators. I do not agree with auction politics which we are seeing from all kinds of people at present.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [267]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] There is no credibility surrounding the offer.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [267]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Michael Mullins supported Senator Martin Conway in calling for a debate on tourism. He also spoke about the need to achieve value for money. I agree entirely with him.
Senator Feargal Quinn seconded Senator David Norris's proposed amendment to the Order of Business. ...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I hope he prints and circulates in rural Ireland what he said.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It will be a good news letter.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It is a case of all alive and well in rural Ireland.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] I will deliver it to those living in Finn Valley.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Eamonn Coghlan also noted that Fianna Fáil had closed more Garda stations and rural post offices than the Government.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] It has nothing to do with the Deputy Leader; she would never say anything like that.[Mooney, Paschal]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [268]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Eamonn Coghlan also expressed support for the protection of the national anthem.
Senator Brian Ó Domhnaill also raised the issue of the neglect of rural Ireland. I think I have dealt with that matter. The Senator also referred to a specific matter related to State boa...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] The Deputy Leader is a Government Senator.[Crown, John]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [269]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Not at the time the general election was called. Therefore, there is hope for these Bills.
Senator Thomas Byrne spoke about homelessness. I think I have dealt with that matter.
I cannot accept the amendment to the Order of Business proposed by Senator John Crown.[Bacik, I...
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21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator David Norris has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 1 be taken with debate." Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [269]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Yes.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [269]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Under Standing Order 62(3)(b), I request that the division be taken again other than by electronic means.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Senator John Crown has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That a debate with the Minister for Health on the cancellation of elective surgery in Cork University Hospital be taken today." Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [270]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Tá sé.[Crown, John]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [270]
21/01/2016 [Order of Business] Under Standing Order 62(3)(b), I request that the division be taken again other than by electronic means.[Norris, David]Vol-245 Book-5 Page [271]
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