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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, motion of referral to the Joint Committee on Justice and Equality of European regulation on matrimonial matters, matters of parental responsibility and international child abduction, to be taken without debate at the conclusion of the Order of Busi...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Does that mean that we are having no discussion whatever this morning before the Taoiseach comes into the House?[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That is correct.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I see.[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That is a matter for the House to decide.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] On the Order of Business, yes.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] On the issue of support for victims of crime and their families, a man whose son had been murdered in Spain in a case of mistaken identity came to my office recently. He was in great shock. He had had no interaction with the Irish authorities on any investigation into his son’s...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [277]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Will the Leader ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality to come to the House to explain the appointment or non-appointment of new judges? When Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil made the confidence and supply agreement which was published, it was provided that all agreemen...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I want the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality to come to the House to explain to us how it is that serious damage has been done to the constitutional process by reason of an agreement which is unpublished and secret and which should not be in place, given the deal on ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Today.[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] -----and to indicate clearly that the Constitution overrides deals of this kind and that the Government retains its right to appoint judges and will appoint judges when it is necessary to do so.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I want to raise an issue that may be futile to some, but it is important to us in County Mayo. It is important to the elderly and those with disabilities. We will be coming to Dublin on Saturday to take away the Sam Maguire Cup, we hope, and-----[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] What about the curse?[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That only applies in September. Does the Senator not know that Saturday next is 1 October? There are many who want to travel by train and extra trains are being put on from Mayo to Dublin to bring supporters up for the match. However, the elderly and those with disabilities wi...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [278]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I delivered the keynote speech yesterday at a diversity conference in Waterford where a young lady, Ms Nowar Dlikan, a Syrian refugee, gave an account of her story and the atrocities she and all citizens were experiencing in Syria. I have heard more disturbing news this morning ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [279]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I very much support the efforts of the Minister for Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government, Deputy Simon Coveney, to speed up the supply and the announcement of the rapid-build housing. The Minister is talking about supplying 1,600 such units.
It was reported in The...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The budget negotiations are under way and there is engagement with the various parties and stakeholders. As policymakers and politicians, we must recognise that in recent years there have been considerable reductions in the pay, salaries and conditions of many. Having said all ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [280]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is of great concern that gardaí are considering taking industrial action on 4, 11, 18 and 25 November. The Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, should come to the House next week to discuss the issues involved. Gardaí have been extremely patient and ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [280]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I support my colleague, Senator Michael McDowell. We cannot have the courts held up. People are waiting years to bring cases before the courts. Now we are told we will have to wait for legislation which may take one year to get through this House. If there is some agreement i...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator knows that is about the Fine Gael leadership.[Humphreys, Kevin]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Of course, it is about the leadership of Fine Gael. When the two boys are finished playing it out, I hope the Tánaiste, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald, will enjoy her new role as Taoiseach.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Gerard P. Craughwell is welcome back to Fine Gael.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] May I have order in the Chamber?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I raise a serious issue which has been escalating for several months at the Oberstown facility for young offenders. It is an excellent new-build which cost more than €50 million and which is very much focused on the rehabilitation and re-education of young offenders to give them...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [281]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator’s point has been well made.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [282]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I want to raise the issue of apartheid. While we have a wide range of political views in this Chamber, I am confident that nobody here would defend an ideology of apartheid or racism. This summer, however, I visited an apartheid state, the state of Israel where I saw at first h...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [282]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Inspired by Senator Michael McDowell, I propose an amendment to the Order of Business that, instead of No. 4 being taken at 12:30 p.m., we have statements on the appointment of judges. I hope the Tánaiste would be present, but even if she was not, we could have statements at 12:...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I have serious concerns about orthodontic services which are underfunded. A constituent of mine who is 16 years of age has been waiting for an operation on her teeth since she was 13. She is a young, maturing lady and her mother has serious concerns for her because this is affe...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I second Senator Michael McDowell's proposal to have the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality appear before the House to discuss the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Shane Ross's reported proposed interventions in what is an important matter.[Nash, Gera...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I would prefer to get the record straight. An amendment to the Order of Business was proposed by Senator David Norris, not Senator Michael McDowell. If Senator Gerald Nash wishes to second the amendment, he may do so.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I second the amendment. I also propose an amendment to the Order of Business that No. 11, Protection of Employment (Uncertain Hours) Bill 2016, be taken before No. 1.[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I second the amendment.[Humphreys, Kevin]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Gerald Nash will have to get someone else to second the amendment, as Senator Kevin Humphreys has already spoken.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I second Senator Gerald Nash's proposed amendment.[Warfield, Fintan]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Go raibh maith agat.[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [283]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] This week I joined IMPACT library staff in the Lexicon library in Dún Laoghaire who were expressing their opposition to a council management decision to proceed with the policy of having unstaffed libraries. I accept that HR matters are ones for council management, but at a time...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] On a point of order, my understanding is that, when I proposed that the Bill be taken, I was obliged to reference the date on which it would be taken. Is that correct?[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Not yet. We will come to that matter.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That is fine.[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] We will do it at the end of the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I refer to Norwegian Air International, NAI, and the long-running debacle that has been the attempt to get transatlantic flights into Cork Airport. It is very important for the second city that we have a transatlantic airport and direct flights from Cork to the United States. D...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Ba mhaith liom i dtosach báire tagairt a dhéanamh don chlár a rinne "Prime Time" an oíche faoi dheireadh faoin phictiúrlann nua atá á thógáil i nGaillimh. A few nights ago "Prime Time" highlighted the development of the arthouse cinema in Galway. It chronicled a host of serious...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [284]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I think we are all agreed that there is not just a need for a judicial council but also that it is the right thing to put it in place, on which both the Executive and the Judiciary are agreed. I am delighted that the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality made a recent s...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I wish to add to the comments made on the Garda Representative Association's decision to instigate four days of strike action in November owing to the fact that their pay demands have not been met. This is a serious development, one that goes to the core of every community in th...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] What about bus drivers?[Nash, Gerald]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is absolutely different. No comparison can be made between emergency response teams, whether they are firefighters, ambulance personnel or gardaí, and other public sector workers and it is unfair to do so because they are the first line of protection, when required. I ask th...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] A big change from last night.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator was not listening.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [285]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Before calling the Leader to respond, I welcome a public representative, Councillor Crowe, to the Visitors Gallery. I wish him a successful stay. I thought he might be up for the match, but he is not a Mayo man.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I also welcome Councillor Crowe to the Visitors Gallery. I am sure he will be swamped afterwards by his electorate.
I thank Senators for their contributions on the Order of Business. A total of 18 Members spoke and raised matters of importance.
Senator Catherine Ardagh re...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] On a point of order, I remind the Leader that I specifically said the debate should take place even in the absence of the Minister, Deputy Frances Fitzgerald.[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] To be fair, I am trying to be collaborative.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] As the Leader has made his point, we will let the Order of Business unfold.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] In having the debate it is important to have the full facts and not to have them at half-time.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Will the Leader indicate the timeframe he is contemplating? I agree that it would be preferable for the Tánaiste to be here, but it is not essential. Will the Leader indicate whether we are talking about one week or one month?[McDowell, Michael]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [286]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I am hoping it will take place in the next couple of weeks. I am not a member of the Cabinet, but it is my understanding there will be another discussion next week. I might be wrong, but let me see what happens after the Cabinet meeting next week. I will come back to Senators ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [287]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I am agreeable to that proposal.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [287]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is also important that we do not use the debate for political purposes to badger people on the issue of judicial appointments. We should allow for a certain degree of independence.
Senator Grace O'Sullivan raised the important issue of the Syrian conflict. In that regard, ...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Absolutely.[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [287]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It behoves us to encourage all involved to engage in talks and become more proactive to bring about a resolution.
Senator Rose Conway-Walsh said holders of the free travel pass were not entitled to free travel on the weekend of the All-Ireland football final. That is wrong and...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That is nonsense.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is not and we cannot go back to them.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Leader has not even seen the pre-budget proposals-----[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I have heard Sinn Féin's spokespeople every day on radio and television promising the sun, the moon and the stars.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Absolutely.[Reilly, James]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] All things for everything.[Coffey, Paudie]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It cannot be done.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] They have all been costed by the Leader's colleagues in the Department of Finance.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator should talk to his colleagues-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] All of the figures are from the Department of Finance.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I ask the Leader-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] They made swingeing cuts in the North.[Coffey, Paudie]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] We will check the Government's budget when it is announced.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator should talk to his colleagues in Stormont.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is not affordable.[Reilly, James]Vol-247 Book-5
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator was a great man for figures when he was in the Department of Health.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [288]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin is making swingeing cuts and implementing austerity in the North of Ireland.[Coffey, Paudie]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Nonsense.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Leader, to continue, without interruption, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] All I ask of Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh is that he talk to his colleagues in Stormont who will tell him what government is about because in government one cannot be all things to all people.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] They are very good in government, are they not?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] That is a matter of opinion.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Yes; they are managing in government very well.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The important point is that all of us who are committed in public life recognise as public servants the importance of An Garda Síochána. Equally, however, the job of the Government is to govern. The current Administration is committed to protecting the economy and not going bac...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin is not promising tax cuts.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It is promising everything.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Not at all.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator knows that I am correct.
The other point is that, regardless of whether one is in opposition or a minority Government, if one considers what the Government has available to spend, the fiscal space - I hate using the term - is limited. The ratio is 2:1 in terms of t...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It has to be invited[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It has been invited.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It must be invited by the Minister.[Ó Domhnaill, Brian]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Order, le do thoil.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Senator Gerard P. Craughwell, joined by Senator Gerald Nash, raised the issue of judicial appointments. He also referred to a report in the Irish Independent. All I can tell him is that the Minister responsible for housing and local government and all parts in between, Deputy S...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [289]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I totally agree.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Certainly as Leader, I never have acted other than in a co-operative, cross-party way on the issue raised by the Senator. The Minister will attend the conference of the Local Authorities Members Association, LAMA, in Bantry on Friday, as I am sure the Senator will. I am also su...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I would be delighted to do so.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It was Phil Hogan who did that.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin's local government proposal is a little like Aesop's tales. I am very fond of the Senator, but I sometimes wonder what world he is living in. Hilary Clinton used the phrase "living in one's own reality" about Donald Trump. I think the Senator should read Sinn Féin's ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It has no responsibility.[Coffey, Paudie]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Leader is really showing who is afraid of the real people.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] All of the money and no responsibility.[Coffey, Paudie]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Leader is inclined to wander a little this morning.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] We did not do the leprechaun economics.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin has come up with voodoo economics.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] Let us conclude the Order of Business.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [290]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I apologise.
Senator James Reilly referred to the Oberstown centre. I will be happy to have the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Deputy Katherine Zappone, come into the House to discuss that important issue.
Senator Robbie Gallagher raised the important issue of ap...
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29/09/2016 [Order of Business] It was Senator Paul Gavan who raised the issue. Language is important.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] My apologies. The Senator is correct that language is important. Senator Paul Gavan is right; a debate is needed to hear from all sides.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] A rose by any other name smells the same, according to the bard of Avon.[Norris, David]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] The Senator is correct. It is also my opinion that the Palestinian people deserve to have their voice heard and recognised. While I might not receive approval in many quarters for saying that, I share Senator Paul Gavan's views in that regard. This is an issue Members must con...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] How stands Senator David Norris' proposed amendment?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] As a litigant in a case before the courts for five years, I feel strongly about it. However, I also remember, with the then Senator Shane Ross, dealing with the matter of political appointments, which is probably from where he is coming. In the light of the Leader's reasonable ...Vol-247 Book-5 Page [291]
29/09/2016 [Order of Business] I thank the Senator. I am sure that if the matter is not dealt with, either he or Senator Michael McDowell will raise it next week or the week after that.
Senator Gerald Nash has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 11 be taken before No. 1." The Leader h...
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