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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Domestic Violence Bill 2017 - Committee Stage, to be taken at 12.45 p.m. and to be adjourned not later than 2 p.m.; No. 2, statements on the audit of the use of section 12 of the Child Care Act by An Garda Síochána, to be taken at 2 p.m. and to con...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For clarification, did the Leader say the Private Members' Bill is to be adjourned after 90 minutes?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yes.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is normally two hours but the Leader is amending it to 90 minutes.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yes, following a conversation with Senator Ruane.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I wish to raise the pending retail initial public offering of AIB. It is the view of the Fianna Fáil group that the Minister, Deputy Noonan, should press the EU for a relaxation of the fiscal rules to allow the proceeds from the sale of the stake in AIB to be used for capital in...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [219]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Intoxicating Liquor (Amendment) Bill 2017 passed Second Stage in this House on 12 April. When I raised this a fortnight ago, the Leader promised that Committee and Remaining Stages of the Bill would have been debated by tomorrow and I am disappointed that this will not now h...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [220]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Today, the chief executive of AIB has acknowledged the role played by taxpayers in the bailout of his bank. The sheer scale of the taxpayer bailout of €20 billion should warrant a more transparent approach to any potential sale of this State-owned bank. Any plan to sell part of...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [220]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin supported the bank guarantee.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We did not vote for the bank guarantee. Let us make this clear.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Leader, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yes it did. It is on the record.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We did not. I want to clear this up. On 17 October -----[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I ask the Senator to take a second. Respect the Chair. The Leader has ample time to respond later and make his case. Do not interrupt the speaker. It is bad manners. I hate crossing the Leader. Senator Conway-Walsh, please conclude.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader was notorious for his heckling when he was in the Dáil-----[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Do not enrage the situation.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It may be his last day as Leader.[Wilson, Diarmuid]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----and he has continued doing that.
We are in a very different position now, in that we have the time to sort out a good deal with regard to AIB for the people. We are not huddled together in a room. Sinn Féin did not support the bank guarantee when it came back to the Dáil...
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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yesterday, I was delighted to hear the Supreme Court's unanimous ruling that the policy of banning asylum seekers from working was unconstitutional. This is a landmark decision with major implications for how we treat asylum seekers in this country. I have raised it here before...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [221]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I support Senator Black's comments and welcome the Supreme Court decision yesterday on the right to work. It is a hugely important decision for asylum seekers in Ireland and I very much welcome it.
I call on the Leader to amend the Order of Business. I do not often do this bu...
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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is not on the Order Paper so I am not sure that we can deal with it.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I am asking the Leader to amend the Order of Business that we might have a debate on the text of the motion. It has been circulated. I know it is not on the Order Paper but I am conscious that the decision-----[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I think it can be circumvented that way.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I think I can circumvent it.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I bow to the Senator.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Given that the decision was made by Cabinet yesterday, flying in the face of the Dáil vote in support of the Labour Party motion on 18 May to delay the sale of AIB shares, and given that we will not sit for another two weeks, I will not have an opportunity to put this motion agai...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [222]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For clarification, I take it that the Senator is proposing a debate with the Minister of Finance on the proposed sale of AIB shares be taken today?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yes, I am proposing that although we would be happy to have the debate in the Minister's absence if his availability is a difficulty.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We will hear the Leader's response.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We wish to have a debate on the motion and a vote on the motion today.[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] As spokesperson on sport, I raise the farcical situation that has come to light in recent days in regard to the Irish Amateur Boxing Association.[O'Mahony, John]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] There is bad news and good news today about the Cork-Limerick M20 route, with which the Leader and everybody else will be familiar. It is probably the most badly-needed piece of motorway in the whole country. Shock and anger is being expressed by councillors of all descriptions...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [223]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I understand that it is currently being produced. That is probably not a matter for the Order of Business. We will keep the Senator posted.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader will know that I frequently have a go at the Government when I feel it is important. Today, however, as the current Taoiseach exits office, I want to place on the record of the House the job he has done in respect of Brexit, along with the Minister of State with respo...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader responded to this matter yesterday. He made a commitment in the Senator's absence. It would be unfair for Senator Craughwell to comment further when he was not present yesterday. The Leader will probably reply in a minute.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I feel deeply aggrieved about the matter.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator has stated his position very clearly. I am sure the Leader will respond.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Thank you.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I wish to raise the issue of paid parking in rural towns, which I have spoken about before. There is unfair competition when it comes to town centres. There are facilities on the outskirts of some towns with free parking and they are being given planning permission. If there i...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [224]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I blame Fine Gael.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The main role of a traffic warden is to keep traffic flowing. To be writing tickets for profit is totally against the Local Authorities (Traffic Wardens) Act 1975.[Butler, Ray]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is what privatisation does.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Are these tickets being written illegally? I want the Minister to come in here in order that we can find out what is going on in respect of paid parking being privatised. Are we going to close down town centres in rural Ireland? It is just not good enough. If it is happening ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It has been happening for years in Dublin.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I want to get the attention of the Leader.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I always pay attention.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] This is important. I appreciate that the Leader has tried to help with the issue of the Jadotville medals. I ask the Cathaoirleach to bear with me. I briefly raised the issue with the Minister of State in the canteen this morning. I asked when he would meet me and Senator Cra...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I want it sorted today once and for all. There must be respect for the majority of Members of this House. I want a statement from the Minister of State with responsibility for defence and for him to do the honourable thing. We have acted honourably up until now. I propose an ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The proposed amendment is noted. The Senator will have to get someone to second it later.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I formally second my colleague's amendment regarding the sale of AIB shares. It would be a nonsense if this House did not express an opinion on this issue. This will probably be the biggest fiscal decision made in the past two years. We have young children in the Gallery today...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [225]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I welcome the doubling of funding, from €650,000 to €1.3 million, that is being provided to aid the crackdown on illegal dumping throughout the country, which is wrecking many lovely, beautiful spots in various counties. I am glad the Minister, Deputy Naughten, acted quickly in ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [226]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I wish to raise only one issue, which relates to Coillte. We know that Coillte has 390,000 ha under forestry in this State. That is an enormous natural and national asset and resource, and it is very important. There has been great discussion on the possibility of elements of ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [226]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will let the Leader deal with that when he responds.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] First, I second the amendment by my colleague, Senator Mac Lochlainn. It is very important. I believe everyone would accept that we have acted very honourably in respect of this issue. We would hope for that to be recognised. I was not planning to speak, but I wish to offer m...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator is good at that himself.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Here are billions that are available and yet it looks as if the Fine Gael Party is intent, with its rightward drift, on ensuring none of those projects will be fulfilled. We hear the issue of the M20 motorway quite rightly being raised again today. I would hope that, in the int...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Empty rhetoric.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I do not need to speak. I was just going to second the Sinn Féin amendment on Jadotville, but that has already been done. I should say that I was going to do so as a native of the Belgian Congo.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the Senator for his brevity.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I dtosach, ba mhaith liom fáilte a chur roimh an gcinneadh a rinne an Chúirt Uachtarach inné maidir le cearta oibre. I welcome the unanimous decision taken yesterday by the Supreme Court on the right to work of people seeking asylum. We need to get real about the issue of asylu...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [227]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Tá an t-am istigh.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [228]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I ask the Leader to implore the Minister, Deputy Harris, to do something about the issue and to make the crews available because if there is a fatality, it will lie at his door and the door of the Government and I do not want to see that happen.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [228]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I concur with the remarks of Senator O'Mahony about the Irish Athletic Boxing Association. For many years and in previous Olympics the performance and achievements of our boxing team were the envy of many other sports. Boxers were the standard bearers of Irish sport. It is 100...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [228]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I have been contacted a number of times in recent weeks about the worsening phone coverage in County Carlow that does not seem to be specific to any one provider. Mobile signals seem to have deteriorated, which is impacting not only on the service to residential customers but al...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [229]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Today the representative group, Nursing Homes Ireland, NHI, is in Buswells Hotel meeting Oireachtas Members. I encourage Members to meet the NHI if at all possible. The group has raised a number of concerns, in particular the change in the mechanism for the calculation of comme...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [229]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I join other colleagues, including my party leader in the House, Senator Ardagh, in supporting the call for the Minister for Finance, Deputy Noonan, to come to the House today to discuss the impending sale of 25% of AIB. It is important that whatever money is raised from the sal...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [229]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is correct.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----but we had the Minister of State in the House last week and we had a very good debate with him. However, he never mentioned the motion which I believe has been on the Order Paper for approximately six months. I understand it was intended to take it without debate but, firs...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the 17 Senators who spoke. Senators Ardagh, Conway-Walsh, Bacik, Humphreys and Wilson raised the sale of shares in AIB. The Minister has outlined that it is his intention, on behalf of the Government, to sell some of the shares in AIB. It is extraordinary to listen to ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The austerity treaty.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The treaty committed us to certain terms and conditions. As Members know full well, the benefits of the sale of AIB shares can only be used for debt write-down. In an ideal world we would all love to take the money from the sale of the shares in AIB and spend it on our pet proj...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Standing up for the sovereignty of the country by giving money to Europe.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is easy to be for nothing and against everything in the Chamber every day, Senator Norris.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I was against the fiscal treaty. I spoke against it in the House and then voted against it.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The reality, as Members will know,-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Le do thoil,-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The irony of it all is that the hypocrisy of Sinn Féin knows no bounds. It was in Greece with its flags and posters standing side by side with Syriza and Mr. Varoufakis, saying that they would not surrender.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] And the citizens of Greece.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [230]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] And what happened? Mr. Varoufakis has gone off on his bike. Greece and the poor unfortunate people-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] He was dismissed.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The poor mistreated-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The poor people of Greece-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Mr. Varoufakis was dismissed and he was 100% right about Europe.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----today have an unemployment rate of 23%-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is because of Europe-----[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----when our country has a rate of approximately 6.4%.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----and the bureaucrats in Europe.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Our country is on the road to recovery-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----because of the Fine Gael-Labour Government and the present Government. I, on behalf of the Government side in this House, will not allow Sinn Féin to wreck our country further.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Wow.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Will the Government do that by itself?[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is early for interruptions. Allow the Leader to respond and Senators will have a chance at some other time to-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] After all, it might be his last performance.[Humphreys, Kevin]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is what I was going to say.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We hope that he will remain on as caretaker.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will take my chances, Senator Humphreys.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] To be honest with the Leader, this may be everyone's last performance if Leo calls an election.[Humphreys, Kevin]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] As Senators know full well, including Senator Humphreys, who was a Minister of State, the sale of AIB was going to happen. As to the brave commentary of Senators Gavan and Conway-Walsh regarding the nationalised or non-private banks, they should consider their history and record...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [231]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Will the Minister come to the House and answer the questions?[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senators are doing people a disservice by claiming there is no accountability or regulation of the banks. There is now. The previous and current Governments have ensured there will be no more light-touch regulation.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] There is not an awful lot of regulation of the banks.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Who is in prison?[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The banks were goosed out of the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The good news-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] They can do what they bloody well like.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] As Members know full well-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] They have been charging illegal interest. They have putting people out of their homes who could not pay that illegal interest.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Norris, allow the Leader to continue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is what the banks are at.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The "Bankers' Party".[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Allow the Leader to continue. We have a-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] He is being provocative on the subject of the banks.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is about time that people got real about certain things in the House. Our responsibility as Members means that we must be objective in how we run the country and govern. On behalf of the young people in the Gallery, we must ensure that we have a country to hand back to them,...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The sale of AIB was always going to happen.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The bankers and vulture funds can do what they like.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The bank has returned to profitability and the Minister, with the Government, has made the decision to sell. The good news is that the Minister will come to the House at 6 p.m., so the Senators can debate the matter. I hope that Members will not play party politics and that the...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [232]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] And the leprechaun economics of Fine Gael. That is not me saying it.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] And the Seanie economics.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Ardagh raised the issue of traffic management in Dublin.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is €250 million for the vulture funds.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Let us move on. There will be a debate at 6 p.m. The Senators should acknowledge that the Leader has consented to a debate and move on, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Sinn Féin Members opposite should consider their colleagues in government in the North.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That will be a matter for this evening's debate.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Some day, and I hope that I will not be here for it, the Sinn Féin Members will play a different tune when they are in government.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We certainly will.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We will wait for that election.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I look forward to them waving the flag.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] They have always known how to deal with the banks.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is a different matter.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [233]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I certainly will not rise to that bait, but Senator Norris is right.
Senator Lawless raised the important matter of the Intoxicating Liquor (Amendment) Bill. As he knows well, I am not slowing the matter down or obfuscating on it. There has been an ongoing liaison between my ...
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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Today?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [234]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] He is not here today. He has gone to an event.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [234]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Will he meet us first thing in the morning?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [234]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will speak to the Senator after the Order of Business.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [234]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] No. I need an assurance. This is-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [234]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] A Chathaoirligh, may I respond briefly?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator will not negotiate with me here.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Let us-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Then there will be a vote and the House will divide. We have been messed around for months now.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] All I can say is-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn, there is a way of dealing with issues.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] How can the Minister of State meet the Government Senators but not meet Senator Craughwell and me?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Allow the Leader to respond.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For months, we have looked for a meeting-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] All I can say-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----just to know where we stand.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will put a question to the Senator shortly and he will have the means of dealing with this matter. Allow the Leader to continue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] As for my bona fides in this regard, I will revert to the Minister of State after the Order of Business.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I have no problem with the Leader but the Minister of State has treated us with utter contempt for months. He showed me utter contempt in the canteen this morning. I need to meet him today or first thing in the morning with Senator Craughwell.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator has made his point. The Leader to continue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] If we can have that assurance now, we will not divide the House.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will revert to the Senator before the close of business today.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I want an assurance now.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I cannot give the Senator an answer because I have to go back and talk-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I propose that proceedings be suspended for five minutes-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] No, I am not going to do that.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [235]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] ------to give the Minister of State an opportunity to say when he can meet us-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----and clarify the situation.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator has a choice. Sometimes there are difficult decisions to make. If the Senator is unhappy with the Leader's response on behalf of the Government, he can call a vote.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] That is fair enough.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] It is a matter for the Senator.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will endeavour to have the meeting with the Minister of State either this evening or tomorrow. I know he is not available this afternoon. I may not be here tomorrow for that meeting - I would like to be - which is why I am not negotiating with Senator Mac Lochlainn. He is no...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For how many months have I been raising this issue? How many times have I raised it? What does it take to meet a Minister of State for 15 minutes-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----just to clarify what he is going to do? How more fair could I be?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn should resume his seat.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] How many times have I said to the Leader that I would withhold the relevant motion, which has been------[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn should resume his seat and respect the Chair.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----agreed by the majority of Members of this House? I have acted in good faith but I have been treated with utter contempt. I should not be told that I am bullying anybody. I have been treated with utter contempt, as has Senator Craughwell.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader to reply.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I cannot-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] What has happened this morning is absolutely disgraceful.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We should move on if the Senator cannot accept the assurance-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader has acted in good faith but the Minister of State has treated us with utter contempt.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [236]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn has made his point very strongly.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] After the Order of Business, I will endeavour to go to the Minister of State at the Department of Defence, Deputy Kehoe, to seek a meeting. I cannot answer for him in respect of tomorrow or later today. I cannot say whether he will have room in his diary. I will not be availab...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] What the hell does the Cathaoirleach expect me to do? What does he expect me to do?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator has made his case.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For months and months-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Butler raised the issue of pay parking-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] We have held this motion back for six months.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn------[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Hang on. I should not be told that it ill behoves us to debate the issue in this way. We have held the motion back for six months.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn should resume his seat.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Six months. This morning I was told that there has been no progress. Nothing.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Mac Lochlainn should respect the Chair and resume his seat. He has a way of dealing with the issue if he is not satisfied[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [237]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Butler raised the issues of pay parking and privatisation. I agree with him in that regard and am happy to have the Minister come to the House.
Senator Paul Coghlan raised the issue of illegal dumping. All Members welcome the provision of extra funding to combat this ...
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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] If I can make one point-----[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Can the Senator please not interrupt?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I want to compliment the Leader on his action this morning. Can I just compliment-----[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] This is not a council chamber. The Senator will please resume her seat.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader had a great time this morning supporting World MS Day.[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator will resume her seat.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Today is World MS Day. Well done to the Leader.[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator's behaviour is very disrespectful.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader had a great morning.[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senators cannot be allowed to interrupt in order to thank or contradict the Leader.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Today is World MS Day.[O'Connor, Jennifer Murnane]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] There is a very busy schedule today. I know some Senators would like me to suspend the House for 15 minutes but that would defeat the purpose. The House is sitting until 8.30 p.m. The Leader should be allowed to conclude.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Colm Burke raised the issue of Nursing Homes Ireland. To be fair, he has been a very strong voice in this House for nursing homes. In terms of the issue of the commercial rate, as I have said previously to the possible future Minister, Senator Murnane O'Connor, it is an...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] My point related to supporting our colleagues in terms of the AIB motion. That is fine. Apologies.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Gabh mo leithscéal. The Minister for Finance, Deputy Noonan, is available to come to the House at approximately 6 p.m. We have had a robust debate but I want the same result as Senator Mac Lochlainn in regard to Jadotville. Rather than divide the House, I propose to revert to ...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the Leader. The Leader has accepted amendment No. 1 proposed by Senator Bacik. Will he come back to the House with a proposed schedule and details?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [238]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will. I hope the Minister will be available at approximately 6 p.m. but I will confirm that.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Bacik has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate with the Minister for Finance on the proposed sale of AIB shares be taken today." This amendment has been accepted in principle and the Leader will revert to the House with the details. Is the amen...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the Leader for that. Can he clarify that the Minister will attend the House to debate the motion at approximately 6 p.m.?[Bacik, Ivana]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will revert to the House with the times.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The amendment is agreed subject to details to be confirmed.
Senator Mac Lochlainn has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate with the Minister of State at the Department of Defence, Deputy Kehoe, on the award of medals to veterans of the siege of Jadotvi...
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31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I know the Leader is not available tomorrow morning. However, Senator Craughwell and I have repeatedly sought a meeting with the Minister of State and we wish to have that meeting. If the Leader can undertake to arrange that meeting for any time this evening-----[Mac Lochlainn,...Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader is currently in an impossible situation.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I appreciate that. I will not divide the House but I wanted to make that point clear.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] For the information of Members, the staff of my office have liaised with the Minister of State's office to organise the meeting. To be fair to Senator McFadden and I, we have sought that meeting and spoken to the Minister of State about it-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] There is a different version to that told by the Senator.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I remind the Leader that we were promised a meeting after Easter. He knows we were promised that meeting.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator has made his point.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I am going to take a leap of faith and accept that-----[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will put the question if he does not sit down.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] -----on the basis of the assurance given by the Leader, the meeting will take place by tomorrow morning.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] All right.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Can the Leader provide an assurance that the meeting will take place within the next 24 hours?[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [239]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will revert to the Minister of State's office to request that he meet Senators Mac Lochlainn, Wilson, McFadden and Craughwell and myself.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [240]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Within the next 24 hours.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [240]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] I will ask for it to be held in the next 24 hours but I cannot give a commitment that it will be. I cannot govern the Minister of State's diary but I will endeavour to have-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [240]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] There has been enough debate on the issue. Is the amendment being pressed?[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [240]
31/05/2017 [Order of Business] Yes.[Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig]Vol-252 Book-4 Page [240]
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