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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 42, motion 23 re Srebrenica massacre, to be taken at 4.45 p.m. and, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, to conclude no later than 5.45 p.m, with the time allocated to group spokespersons not to exceed seven minutes, the time allocated to the ...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [840]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Before I commence, I would like to express my sympathies and those of the Fianna Fáil group in regard to what we learned last night about the fatal stabbing of a three year old boy in Poddle Park, Kimmage, and the injuries sustained by his mother, a 40 year old doctor.[Ardagh, Ca...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [840]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I rise today on the issue the Fianna Fáil Party has just brought forward, namely, the matter regarding the Defence Forces. The Minister of State at the Department of Defence is on record as saying he has pride in our Defence Forces. I would like to know whether he is proud to p...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [841]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [842]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Where stands our neutrality in that regard? I read in the newspaper today that to allow for this, parts of our neutrality will be required to be set aside. Who gave the permission for this? I wish to propose an amendment to the Order of Business, that Minister of State, Deputy...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [842]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I ask that the Leader provide time for a debate on the summer economic statement. It is vital that Senators have an opportunity to discuss the statement in detail with the Minister for Finance, Deputy Donohoe, and examine the direction the Government is taking. The Minister, De...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [842]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator should not anticipate what the Leader might say.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] -----of the terms "fiscal space", "USC" and "U-turns".[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am sure the Leader will concur with the Senator.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I would like to move an amendment to the Order of Business, that No. 16 be taken before No. 1. No. 16 is a Bill to provide for refugees to apply for members of their families to reunite, enter and reside in the State. Given that there are 22 million refugees worldwide and in li...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the Senator for her brevity.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Like Senator Craughwell and others, I am sometimes ashamed at the way we treat members of the Defence Forces in this country.[Nash, Gerald]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I support the comments made by Members about the Defence Forces. The issue comes down to a lack of respect in the manner members of the Defence Forces are treated. I join other Members in asking that the Minister of State come to the House to address this very important issue ...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [843]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Today I attended the pre-budget information briefing given in Buswell's Hotel by Family Carers Ireland. It was very interesting and I undertook to share some points with Members. The message conveyed at the briefing was that three quarters of carers in the State received no Gov...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [844]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I second my colleague, Senator Craughwell's proposal to invite the Minister to the House regarding Operation Sophia. I was also going to raise this issue and our party's grave concerns. Operation Sophia is an EU military mission under the guise of the Common Security and Defenc...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [844]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I wish to offer condolences on the passing away of the little three-year old boy, to his mother and to the family. It is devastating.
I want to speak today on the broadcasting of our national games. One of the great organisations in the State is the GAA. The pleasure given t...
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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I want to raise the issue of motor insurance and Setanta Insurance. At the finance committee, of which I am a member, I asked that we seek the liquidators of Setanta Insurance to come before the committee. I believe there is a general worry and legitimate concern that many of t...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [845]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I have two brief items to bring to the attention of the Leader. They both relate to tourism, which as Members know is a huge contributor to the economy. In today's edition of The Irish Times, I note that the mandarins in the Department of Finance have approached the Minister, D...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] The Senator should not say that.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] There are drivers who have to use a satnav to get a person from here to the GPO.[O'Sullivan, Ned]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Why use a satnav around Dublin?[Warfield, Fintan]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I do not know. A driver had to use one to get me from here to the GPO and he could not understand a word I was saying.[O'Sullivan, Ned]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] He has a difficulty in finding banks.[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I do not know what my colleague is trying to say, but I stand over what I am saying. Certainly, 90% of taxi drivers provide a good service, but clearly there are bad eggs. I appeal to the Leader to ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport to get in touch with the taxi...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [846]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I join my colleagues who have objected to Irish military involvement in Operation Sophia. It is an erosion of our neutrality by stealth. It is a disgrace that the legislation is being introduced in the other House and I hope it will be roundly defeated.
It is not good practic...
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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] He also has responsibility for sport.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Did I not say "sport"? I apologise. As Marian Finucane says, "and whatever you're having yourself."[Norris, David]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I refer to the proposed legislation relating to the opt-out from organ donation. This matter has been debated time and again during the past five years and it is my understanding the legislation was to be introduced some time ago. I now understand it is going through the Cabine...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] No.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] In particular, the leader of the Fianna Fáil group might clarify the matter on the basis that on previous occasions, before the Leader's time, we were asked to come back in the middle of August. Has the Leader received any indication from any Member that we should sit during the...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Sílim gur smaoineamh an-mhaith é sin. Má tá chuile dhuine eile sa tír ag obair an méid sin seachtainí sa bhliain, ní fheicim cén fáth nach mbeadh muid ag obair níos faide.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Is the Senator seconding the amendment?[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [847]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am not. I think it has been seconded already, but I am happy to do that if it has not.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I understand it has not been seconded.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I happily second the amendment to the Order of Business.[Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I was going to second it before the end of the Order of Business.[Black, Frances]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Sorry, Senator. You can only speak once. I am advised you should have done it when you spoke earlier.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I was not aware of that.[Black, Frances]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It has been seconded.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We had a lot of razzmatazz about the visit of President Trudeau last week, with the Taoiseach, the socks, the jogging, etc. I know the issue of the Irish in Canada and across the globe would have been raised.
I had a meeting yesterday with Ciaran Staunton from the Irish Lobby ...
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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I want to speak about the Citizens' Assembly, which met this weekend, in terms of elderly people. I have had many concerns expressed in my clinic by people who had to retire at 65. They then claim jobseeker's benefit from the Department of Social Welfare, which is €188. Howeve...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [848]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] What Senator Murnane O'Connor has said is very important. I would like the Minister of State with responsibility for mental health and older people to address this Chamber soon, perhaps addressing the Senator's issue as well as the one I raise now, which is that recent reports h...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [849]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I remind the Senator that there is Private Members' legislation before the House on that matter.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [849]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Yes, but I believe the specific issue I am raising should be addressed in more detail by the Minister. New data from census 2016, published in mid-June, show there has been a 19% increase in the number of retired people in the country since 2011. This amounts to over 500,000 pe...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [849]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I express my condolences on yesterday's tragedy in the Kimmage area of Dublin South-Central. Councillor McHugh is on the ground there since yesterday assisting the shocked, bereaved community.
The State's baby boom saw almost 64,000 live births recorded in 2016. That is 1.3 b...
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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I commend the Leas-Chathaoirleach on his handling of the important hearings of the Seanad Public Consultation Committee into mental health services which took place here over the past several Thursdays. As a member of the committee, I would also like to pay tribute to Senator Fr...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [850]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I hope the Leader will join with me in wishing Carl Corcoran, presenter of RTE Lyric FM's, "The Blue of the Night", greetings and well wishes as he departs his show, bringing to a conclusion a journey of almost ten years and beginning a new journey of future exciting musical chal...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [851]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I regret bringing us down from such high culture to a much more unfortunate topic. I want to draw the Leader’s and colleagues’ attention to the monstrosities being inflicted on communities across the North, quite substantially focused in and around the greater Belfast area. The...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [851]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I thank Senator Niall Ó Donnghaile. Does Senator Feighan want to say something?[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [852]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I would like to congratulate Roscommon on winning the Connacht final, if that is okay.[Feighan, Frank]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [852]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Maybe it is time to call on the Leader-----[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [852]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We could be playing Down in the all-Ireland.[Feighan, Frank]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [852]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] With respect, it is time to call on the Leader to respond.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [852]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I thank the 21 Members of the House for their contributions.
I will begin by joining the Senators in offering our condolences to the family of the young child tragically killed in Kimmage. I hope and pray that the mother of that child who herself was attacked is on the road to...
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11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Ours? What about the Senator's partners?[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [853]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I cannot wait to see how Sinn Féin balances the books.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [853]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It is better than the Senator's.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [853]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It will all be fully costed.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We are confident.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I know that Aladdin's cave is sometimes a great place to be, but the Senator cannot keep writing to Santa every year. It is a question of being responsible as well.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] On a point of order, Senator Buttimer has gone off subject.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Devine has a point of order.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] That did not arise as a subject. The Senator just likes to get a dig in every now and then.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I ask Senator Devine for order.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Senator Buttimer is a bit defensive about our budgetary submission, which is excellent, if I may say so.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I ask Senator Devine for order. I am afraid that while her smile is appealing, that is not a point of order.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am amused at the defensive nature of Senator Devine.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We cannot discuss that now.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am replying to that. She also referred to a number of issues to which I am also replying. If my reply does not suit her, that is not for me to say but I look forward to her party having its costed economic proposals-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] They are always costed.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] They are held to account.[Warfield, Fintan]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I know the Senator's party is a high tax party and it tries to play the card for everybody.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] No.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Some day, the three card trick does not work.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It is just for the many not the few.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] They will be a bit like the fellows in Cahirmee this week. They will get caught out sometime.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Please.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We look forward to their fiscal projections and seeing how they can balance the books-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Oh my God.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [854]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Sorry, Leader.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] -----while at the same time, continuing the Government's great economic policy of having more people back at work, something the Sinn Féin Members have never congratulated us on.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] The Leader should not point his finger at me.[Devine, Máire]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Something they have never done.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] We will have that debate another day, please, Leader.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I look forward to that.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Congratulations to the Leader if he is hurting.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Now, now, Senator Craughwell.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I will accept Senator Kelleher's proposal. Senator Gallagher raised GP cover for rural areas. I would be happy for the Minister to come to the House. The ten-year health strategy has been published and we will have to wait for a debate on that. We need to look at how we can c...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [855]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] As was former Senator Fergal Quinn.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] He was not a member of the committee.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] He brought forward a Private Members' Bill.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I acknowledge that, but the committee I chaired, of which Senator Colm Burke was a member, did some significant work.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Yes, for which great credit is due to it.[Mullen, Rónán]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It is important that a policy change take place. It is my understanding the Minister was to bring the Bill to the Cabinet this morning. I would welcome the putting in place of the infrastructure to see the legislation passed. As Senator Colm Burke rightly said, there has been ...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [856]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] My recall motion was related to the issue of organ donation and it made a difference.[Daly, Mark]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] -----or send him to Hawaii or Inishvickillane where he could reflect on the political world.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] That is outrageous.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am glad that I changed Government policy.[Daly, Mark]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I do not want Members to be brought back in August.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I do not know if we would have a place to sit.[Daly, Mark]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am not sure it would be in the interests of our health and well-being.
Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh referred to voting rights in presidential elections. To the best of my knowledge, Government policy has not changed. To his credit, the Taoiseach has appointed Deputy Ciarán...
Vol-252 Book-13 Page [857]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Up the Rebels.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [858]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] If Senator Craughwell will accept my bona fides, I will endeavour to get a date from the Minister in regard to his request.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [858]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] In reply to the Leader-----[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [858]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I will call the Senator shortly. He is jumping the gun. Senator Craughwell has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate with the Minister of State at the Department of Defence, having regard to the policy of neutrality, on the nature of the role of the Nav...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [858]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I really want the Minister of State in here but I will not play politics with this as it is too important. I find it deeply regrettable that when the Leader answers these issues, he takes every opportunity to defend the Minister and the Government, which is rather sad.[Craughwel...Vol-252 Book-13 Page [859]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] Senator, I am merely asking if you are pressing the amendment.[An Leas-Chathaoirleach]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [859]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] I am prepared to agree with the Leader and defer it until next week but I want it dealt with next week.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-252 Book-13 Page [859]
11/07/2017 [Order of Business] It is withdrawn by leave of the House. Is that agreed? Agreed.
Senator Colette Kelleher has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business, "That No. 16 be taken before No. 1". The Leader has indicated he is prepared to accept the amendment. Is the amendment agreed? Agreed...
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