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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Data Protection Bill 2018 - Committee Stage, to be taken at 12.45 p.m. and to adjourn not later than 1.30 p.m.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [161]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to raise three items today so I beg the Cathaoirleach's indulgence.
I wish to express my genuine disappointment at the collapse of the power-sharing talks in the North yesterday. I concur with the statements my party leader, Deputy Micheál Martin, made when he expressed...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to address two matters. First, I note that the Leader has proposed that the debate on the Data Protection Bill should finish at 1.30 p.m.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [162]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Ridiculous.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [162]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] He has explained to me the personal circumstances of the Minister for Justice and Equality and his inability to bilocate on this occasion. The Leader has put this forward as a reason for the debate to be adjourned at 1.30 p.m. The consequence of this is that important issues wi...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [162]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Exactly. Why do they not sell them to the mortgage holders?[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] There is a moral issue here.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The one group of people who will not be offered 10 cent or 20 cent in the euro is the homeowner whose house is being repossessed. There is a serious moral issue and it is entirely wrong for the Irish State, through a wholly owned bank, to hand over homeowners who are in difficul...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is shocking.[Noone, Catherine]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I ask the Leader to ask the relevant Minister to hesitate and to ask him or herself whether it is appropriate that a State-owned bank throw a load of people to the wolves for profit. It is out of cowardice as they are not able to deal with these difficult cases themselves so the...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Absolutely. 1916 how are you?[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] We in Sinn Féin are very disappointed that agreement has not been reached in the North. I find it very difficult to listen to what Deputy Micheál Martin has to say on the subject. He has never sought to be constructive around the talks and has no credibility whatsoever. Sinn F...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [163]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to raise issues related to the voluntary homeowners relocation scheme. Nobody takes the decision to seek to leave their own home lightly but where a person is left without options, we must ensure we provide the greatest possible level of support for homeowners. This sche...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [164]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That might be a matter more appropriate for a Commencement notice but I will let the Leader reply. I call Senator Craughwell.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] First and foremost, the situation with Permanent TSB is outrageous. God be with the days when one could walk into the office of a bank manager, sit down with him or her and discuss a matter. I will never forget the generosity of the bank manager who dealt with me when I went bu...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] No, I am not.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I suggest that the Senators do not look at each other at all.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Craughwell thinks that somebody swearing allegiance to a foreign queen is going to solve the impasse.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] She is not foreign. She is more Irish than Senator Conway-Walsh and is a direct descendent of Brian Boru and Hugh O'Neill.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I suggest Senators do not interact with Senator Conway-Walsh.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] What right has the Senator to stand up in here and say what he said?[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The clock is ticking. Please allow Senator Craughwell to conclude. He tried to make his point and Senators might not agree with him.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The citizens in the North of Ireland, who are petrified out of their lives at the thought of Brexit coming down the road towards them like a railway crash, have no voice. For this reason alone, we must immediately ensure that all of the North-South institutions are brought back ...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [165]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] When the Senator is President he can do that work.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] When that happens, Senator Craughwell can carry out the wishes of the people.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Having a swipe at me before the Senators nominate me for the job of President is probably not a good thing to do.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I ask the Senator to sit down before he is interrupted again, please.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Yesterday, my colleague, Senator Craughwell, mentioned the ruling by the European Committee of Social Rights in response to a case lodged by the Permanent Defence Force Other Ranks Representative Association, PDFORRA. The committee ruled that there was justification for the abso...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to address and highlight the comments made by the Taoiseach, Deputy Varadkar, last weekend when he took the opportunity, yet again, to take a swipe at general practitioners, GPs, and to blame them for contributing to the current health crisis and overcrowding at accident a...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [166]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Perilous.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Let me be very clear. GPs only refer patients to accident and emergency departments when they, in their professional opinion, feel it is in the best interest of their patients to do so. To say otherwise is an insult to GPs. It is an insult to their professional integrity and i...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The House should send its condolences to the teachers and pupils who have been shot at a school in Florida. As many as 17 people have been killed and many others have been injured. Florida used to be known as the sunshine state but that has been changed to the gunshine state. ...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I certainly do. This is the Senator's job. One should do the job that one is paid for.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Excuse me, Senator, I am addressing Senator Craughwell.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Yes, Senator Craughwell.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Does Senator Craughwell understand what he has just said? Perhaps his presidential campaign has got to his brain.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] No.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The voters who voted for Sinn Féin and who Sinn Féin represents voted for the party and gave a mandate not to sit in Westminster.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] One must represent all of the voters in one's constituency and not just the republicans.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Perhaps Senator Craughwell should learn a little bit more about the issue. In terms of him raising the issue on a continual basis in this House, he is misguided and misinformed. Perhaps he knows but does not really care for the voters who are republican - and not just voters in...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] How does the Senator know that?[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I support what my colleague, Senator Hopkins, said about a house. The family concerned did a huge amount of work with the local authorities to save the house from being flooded but it is now in no-man's land, for want of a better word. The Minister of State, Deputy Moran, or th...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [167]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Why were we elected?[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [168]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Fine Gael could always run its own candidates up there. We could see how much support they would get.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [168]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is disappointing that we have had a breakdown in respect of devolved government in Northern Ireland. It is a time for cool heads and calm words. At stake are the issues in terms of Northern Ireland and its people on all sides. There is great volatility and danger in Norther...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [168]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I call Senator Norris.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] President Norris.[Conway-Walsh, Rose]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I completely agree with Senator McDowell. If he cares to put down a motion that Seanad Éireann utterly condemns the decision of Permanent TSB to sell off those mortgages, I would certainly be honoured to second it. We had a discussion in the House about a year ago when I introd...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Norris-----[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is absolutely disgraceful. It is not a laughing matter. It is extremely serious. We are now looking at a recreation of the kind of conditions that happened in the 1930s. We really have to do something about it.
Tomi Reichental also spoke to a young Syrian man. The docum...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] We need to be very careful in respect of Northern Ireland at present. It is a time for cool heads and calmness. There is a problem in that we do not have an Assembly. We have a group representing the entire population of Northern Ireland in the House of Commons that has the su...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [169]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I was contacted by a councillor yesterday. I know many Senators talk to councillors every day. This lady is a hardworking single mother and she is surviving solely on her councillor's pay. Due to her mother's death in January, she missed two council meetings and somebody in th...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [170]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I have listened to several colleagues speak about the sale of loans by Permanent TSB to an investor, a so-called vulture fund. I was particularly taken with what my colleague, Senator McDowell, had to say as he got to the heart of the matter when reflecting on his professional e...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [170]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Exactly.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [171]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] -----so that the homeowner could have one last shot at negotiation? Alternatively should we be thinking of something bigger? Should we be thinking about some kind of instrument or some kind of body that would be given access to privileged information about the deals on offer an...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [171]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [171]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] In respect of Senator Robbie Gallagher's comments, I am a practising GP and I talk to other GPs. I know that what really makes them cross is the FEMPI legislation. I put my hand up because I was responsible for the introduction of some of those cuts during our financial emergen...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [171]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Before I call on Senator Niall Ó Donnghaile, I would like to welcome a former Member of this House and current Member of the Lower House, Deputy Darragh O'Brien. It is nice that he has come back to show respect to this Chamber again.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will begin by expressing my disappointment at the seeming collapse of the talks process in the North yesterday. Despite having what appeared to be a comprehensive deal on the table, the DUP has walked away, unfortunately, and it appears that it has not been able to seal that p...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] These issues could be dealt with if there was an assembly, no problem.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That displays the highest level of ignorance yet because, unfortunately, despite the majority of the Assembly voting for marriage equality in the past, one party blocked it. This notion of two problem parties being as bad as each other-----[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Then it is as bad to appear to do it again[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Allow me to correct the record.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I ask Senator Norris to allow Senator Ó Donnghaile to speak. He is running out of time as a result of interruptions.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will be very quick. The Irish language is one issue. The rights that are envisaged there are available to everyone in this State and to people in Scotland and Wales as well. Marriage equality is another issue that a majority of MLAs support, just as a majority support Acht n...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Well said.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Dogs not being microchipped is a serious issue in urban and rural areas. In 2016, it became compulsory for every dog to be microchipped. Since then, it has been the responsibility of a combination of the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine and local authorities throu...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [172]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I agree with those who spoke about Permanent TSB. It is a disgraceful way to proceed as far as I am concerned. I do not know how much control the Minister has over what it can do. That is the problem, is it not?[Noone, Catherine]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [173]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] He is a shareholder.[McDowell, Michael]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [173]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is, perhaps, the difficulty here. Legally, it is entitled to do as has been outlined unfortunately. It is a disgusting way for the bank to proceed given the context of many of these loans.
I want to make a positive suggestion that could benefit the environment, our pocke...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] An issue close to my heart is football. It is not because Spurs had a great comeback the other night - fair play to Harry Kane. The tragedy about Harry Kane is that his folks are all from Ireland and he really should be playing for us.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [173]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Correct. Well said. Hear, hear.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is a whole other kettle of fish. The League of Ireland is kicking off this weekend.[Gavan, Paul]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I cannot wait.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is a tremendous league that does not get the support or recognition it deserves. All of us should support our local clubs. We have a great club in Limerick, Limerick FC, which returned to the Market's Field a few years ago. We are getting much better crowds now. The standa...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is a significant advertisement for the sport.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I join colleagues in expressing my disappointment that the talks in the North have broken down somewhat unexpectedly. I have no doubt that the outline of an agreement had been agreed between the leadership of the DUP and that of Sinn Féin. Unfortunately, however, it appears tha...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [174]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Sinn Féin cannot do that. It does not have the numbers.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [175]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] By doing that temporarily, they could put an end to Brexit.[Wilson, Diarmuid]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [175]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That would be a good thing.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [175]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I ask Sinn Féin Senators to consider that proposal or to bring it to their party leadership in Belfast.
I take this opportunity to wish Gerry Adams the best of health and happiness in his retirement. If this vacuum is created, I hope, for the sake of many communities in the No...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Diarmuid, we are best friends today.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [175]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I thank the 20 Senators who contributed to the Order of Business. Senators Ardagh, Conway-Walsh, Craughwell, Devine, Feighan, Boyhan, Colm Burke, Ó Donnghaile and Wilson raised the issue of the collapse of the talks at Stormont yesterday. All of us are disappointed at the outco...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [175]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] In saying that, the Leader is implying that GPs are sending to accident and emergency departments people who should not be going there.[Gallagher, Robbie]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] No. I did not interrupt the Senator. He must be fair about this.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am.[Gallagher, Robbie]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Senator is not. He is being mischievously political, which is disappointing.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am absolutely not. I am only relaying problems that were outlined to me by GPs in my constituency.[Gallagher, Robbie]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Earlier, the Senator did not acknowledge the new primary care centres that have been built, the changes in the GP contract hours and the provision of medical cards to all children under the age of six. In addition, he failed to recognise that talks are under way on a new GP cont...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Here we go again.[Gallagher, Robbie]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [176]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Yes, but-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Will the Leader try to stay in the present if at all possible? That might be more helpful than delving into the past. People are only interested in solutions for today and tomorrow.[Gallagher, Robbie]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Senator is normally very balanced. He made a point which the Leader is entitled to answer.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] As the Cathaoirleach knows quite well, that is what the Taoiseach is trying to do with the new GP contract. As a doctor, he is committed to the health system, unlike Senator Gallagher's party leader who would not let any Senator sit on the committee that worked on the Sláintecar...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Come down to Mullingar hospital and see the number of people waiting for treatment on trolleys.[Davitt, Aidan]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Let us have that debate again when we see what happens with the GP contract. I advise Senator Gallagher that it is important to acknowledge the importance of the role of GPs in our health system. Nobody has ever not done that.
On behalf of the House, I join Senator Devine in ...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It was about Tomi Reichental.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I beg the Senator's pardon. I saw the documentary yesterday. It was very powerful and moving. Senator Norris is correct. It posed lots of questions. As Senator Gallagher said, we should move on from the past, but we have to learn from the past. Anyone who watched the docume...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It clearly does.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] It clearly does. That is why it is important that the issue is kept to the forefront and the Minister would come to the House. I would be happy to have that debate in due course.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [177]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] That would be great.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I join with Senator Davitt in offering our sympathies to a councillor on the death of his mother. I understand one has to miss 80% of council meetings before pay is deducted. I will be happy to talk to the Senator later. It certainly shows very poor judgment on the part of the...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I appreciate it. I thank the Leader.[Davitt, Aidan]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I would be happy to discuss the issue with him
Senator Reilly referred to the need for the Minister, Deputy Ross, to come to the House regarding legislation. I will put the question to him as part of a legislative meeting with the Chief Whip's office. I would be happy for the...
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15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Including Spurs.[Ó Donnghaile, Niall]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will talk about the League of Ireland. I hope Cork City win another title this year back-to-back. I wish every team well. It is a very competitive league and an expensive operation for clubs. It brings great joy and creates bonds of unity among supporters when they go to Tu...Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
15/02/2018 [Order of Business] Is the Order of Business agreed to? Agreed.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-3 Page [178]
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