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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Order of Business is No. 1, Public Service Superannuation (Amendment) Bill 2018 - all Stages, to be taken on conclusion of the Order of Business, with the time allocated to group spokespersons on Second Stage not to exceed eight minutes, that to all other Senators not to exce...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [388]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to raise the abysmal delivery of apprenticeships by the Government. Last week, a well-choreographed national development plan, NDP, was rolled out in Sligo with a promise of large-scale capital projects being rolled out nationwide. The truth is, however, that these will ...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [388]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to raise three issues. The first is the annual report of the Data Protection Commissioner for 2017. The watchdog has clearly criticised Tusla over its record-keeping. I was particularly interested in reading an article about this today not because of Tusla, but because ...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [389]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will begin by referring to the weekend's march for truth that took place in Belfast. I flagged it when the event was first announced by victims' families and campaigning groups, and I encouraged Members and those available to attend it. I went on Sunday. There were thousands...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [390]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [390]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is something I and colleagues from Fianna Fáil have raised in the House. I have no doubt we will continue to raise it. I referenced it last week so I will not go into it in any great detail at this stage.
I note too, with regard to the broader issue of victims and where it...
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to speak today about Permanent TSB and the sale of mortgages to vulture funds.[Butler, Ray]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [391]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The taxpayer will also have to pay the cost of eviction.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [391]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Yes. A constituent of mine whose loan was sold to a vulture fund offered to repay €500 per month but it was refused and she and her family were evicted, following which she was housed through the housing assistance payment scheme at a cost to the taxpayer of €700 per month. The...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [391]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I want to address a very serious problem in our child protection system and, in particular, the Health Information and Quality Authority, HIQA, report which suggests that we are not doing our job in terms of child protection in Carlow, Kilkenny and Tipperary. Young people are be...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [391]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Before I came to the Chamber today I noted that the President of the United States, Mr. Donald Trump, has announced that he intends to stand for re-election in 2020. In any democracy it is great that the people know in advance that their President intends to run for a second ter...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is news to me, but the Senator may continue.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The truth of the matter is that the people of this country are entitled to know the direction in which this country is going. They are entitled to be told in advance and in plenty of time. Playing cuties with dates in July when people are on holiday and dropping rumours-----[Cr...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] In terms of protocol, we have a long-standing rule in this House that the President's office is above reproach. Any criticism of what he may or may not wish to do should not be enunciated in this Chamber.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am drawing on a statement that the current President made in 2004.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I ask the Senator to be careful not to trespass onto forbidden ground. We have a long-standing protocol in that regard and I ask the Senator to be cautious in what he says.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Everybody knows that I hold the President in the highest esteem. He has done a wonderful job but that should not prevent us from discussing the position. It should not prevent us from discussing the need-----[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [392]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will have to rule against the Senator if he persists.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [393]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I will not push the Cathaoirleach to rule against me. I have made my point.
The Leader will no doubt be aware that a group of retired Defence Forces personnel have come together to express their concerns about the Defence Forces. I have met the Minister of State and he has be...
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I note that the engineering and technology event, Limerick for Engineering, that was to be held in Shannon Airport this coming Thursday and Friday has been cancelled due to expected adverse weather conditions. However, it has been rescheduled for next week.
Over 2,500 primary ...
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to propose an amendment to the Order of Business that we take No. 22 before No. 1. Item No. 22 is the Sinn Féin Bill entitled the Arts (Dignity at Work) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018, which is, "an Act to enable the Arts Council to ensure that funding is contingent on com...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [393]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] That proposal must be seconded in due course. I call Senator Davitt.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I want to talk today about a town the Cathaoirleach himself knows quite well - Mullingar. Quite an unsavoury piece was written in today's edition of the local newspaper, the Westmeath Examiner. To build the background, and as the Cathaoirleach knows, when one comes into Mulling...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I have never maligned Mullingar in my life.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Norris should have.[Devine, Máire]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Craughwell has described Mullingar as all these things. In fairness, Mullingar is in the top section of the Tidy Towns competition. It also has a very active town team. It has a full-time chamber of commerce and is one of the few towns that has been awarded a purple fl...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is a matter which Senator Davitt might take up directly with Senator Craughwell. I am not sure how appropriate it is to the Order of Business. I will let the Leader deal with that in due course.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I wish to raise an issue referred to in an article on the front page of today's edition of the Irish Examiner, which reported on the measles outbreak in Limerick. It identifies 18 out of the 20 people affected as having not been vaccinated. It highlights the importance of vacci...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [394]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I agree with my colleagues in Sinn Féin who raise the question of Aidan McAnespie. It is shocking that a young man on his way to play a game of football was shot by a soldier. They have tried to maintain that it was a ricochet. It was nothing of the kind. One of the British s...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [395]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [395]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I also refer to Senator Butler's comments on the vulture funds. I no longer call them vulture funds. Vultures do a good job of cleaning up flesh from the corpses of dead animals. The people in Ireland who are being attacked by the vulture funds are alive. These people are liv...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [395]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I second Senator Warfield's amendment to the Order of Business.
A media report today looks at the increase of primary school children enrolling in Catholic primary schools. I have brought this issue up as a Commencement matter with regard to our local Educate Together primary...
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I know that the issue of councillors' pay and conditions will be discussed with the Minister tomorrow evening but I will not be able to attend the Chamber for the debate due to a family bereavement. Therefore, I note that I am glad the debate is to take place because it is an im...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [396]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I thank the 13 Members of the House for their contribution to the Order of Business. I join with Senator Ardagh in calling for the expedition of the apprenticeship programme. Ireland has a deficit of apprenticeships that has been well documented. The Minister, Deputy Bruton, a...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [396]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Five hundred houses a year since Fine Gael has been in government.[Ardagh, Catherine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I did not interrupt Senator Ardagh.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] We get the spiel every time we mention anything.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Allow the Leader to respond.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Leader has been responding with the same nonsense since-----[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Senator has had her say and the Leader is entitled to respond. I have to control the Chamber, so let him respond.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is fact, not nonsense, that the Fianna Fáil Party in government caused the collapse in the construction sector. It is fact, not nonsense, that people in the construction sector lost their jobs and thousands of men and women were forced to emigrate because there was no constru...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] There is still no construction sector under Fine Gael. Nobody has houses.[Davitt, Aidan]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] There was no work. There was no construction sector for a decade.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Government has had seven years and children are being reared in hotel rooms.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It would behove Senator Clifford-Lee to listen rather than come in-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I listened to the same nonsense.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Before I responded she used the word nonsense. I know it hurts Senators over there to hear the facts, not alternative facts, the real facts.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It does not hurt me at all. What hurts me is hearing of those children in hotel rooms.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Thankfully, this Government and the last Government restored our country with the help of the Irish people. There are more people back at work and there is a construction sector that is beginning to re-emerge from the doldrums of a decade, a lost decade caused by Senator Cliffor...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [397]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is what this Government is-----[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] In respect of the communications unit, the Members opposite do not like good news. There are €116 billion worth of good news projects for every community, town, city and county. Which one would the Senators not welcome in their communities?[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] State money is being used to pay for Fine Gael election propaganda.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Which one would the Senator not welcome?[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] That is not the question.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Which one would she not welcome?[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The issue is State money being spent on Fine Gael election material.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Senator should cast her mind back.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Buttimer is purposely not responding to that comment.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I bring her mind back to her venerable great leader's role and that of the former leader and Taoiseach in the national development plan 2000. It is the same thing.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It was marked as advertising.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is a question of communicating, informing, letting people know.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The editors of local papers have found that.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] If Senator Clifford-Lee objects, and I know she is upset about it now-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am not a bit upset.[Clifford-Lee, Lorraine]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] If she objects to any of the projects-----[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Leader-----[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] -----that are being promised for her area she should tell the people why she is against them and she should not be coming in here with a phony, fake war.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] If the Leader is going to have an interaction I will suspend the sitting for 15 minutes. This is happening every day. The Leader is talking to Senators. He should address the Chair in responding and not be baited. Senator Clifford-Lee should please allow him to answer. She c...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [398]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am replying to the Order of Business.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [399]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Otherwise this Order of Business and our dealings will descend into disorder and that is wrong.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [399]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am replying to the Order of Business.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [399]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Leader should try to avoid personal commentary.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [399]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Sometimes Members do not like to hear the good news. That is understandable because we have good news to tell people but we have a very clear separation between the fourth estate and Members of the Government and of the Oireachtas, and that is how they should do their business.
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] The Minister could start with a declaration that there was no ricochet.[Craughwell, Gerard P.]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I am committed, as is Senator Craughwell, to ensuring that we find truth. It will not bring young Aidan McAnespie back, but obtaining justice will give his family some solace. I join with Senator Ó Donnghaile in saying that the issue of equality is important for the North, and ...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Is anything being done about the charitable status?[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I was of the view that it was being investigated. I join with the Senator in saying that there is no way that we should allow vulture funds to have permanent charitable status. That is not what the Act was set up for. Charitable status is not about vulture funds being able to ...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Hear, hear.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] -----and it should not be allowed to continue. I know the Revenue Commissioners were investigating that, but I would really hope that the situation does not pertain where vulture funds are able to obtain a write-off by virtue of a loophole or a section of the Charities Act. The...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is a matter for another jurisdiction.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is not our jurisdiction.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [400]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] He might not be there for a second term. He may be gone for his tea.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [401]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I hope he does not go for his tea just yet, but I would not like to see him re-elected. His first 12 months in office have been littered with bad decisions and poor governance. The issue of An tUachtarán is a matter for himself. I very much hope any candidate who obtains the n...Vol-256 Book-7 Page [401]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] It is very difficult for an individual. It is skewed in the interests of parties.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [401]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I accept that. I admired the tenacity and bravery of Senator Norris during the last presidential election campaign in first securing the nomination.[Buttimer, Jerry]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [401]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I thank the Leader.[Norris, David]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [401]
27/02/2018 [Order of Business] I believe we should have a contest for the Presidency of our country. I know the Cathaoirleach may rebuke me for that.
I am not familiar with the issue raised regarding retired members of the Defence Forces. I will be happy to talk about that after the Order of Business.
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27/02/2018 [Order of Business] Senator Fintan Warfield has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 22 be taken before No. 1." The Leader has indicated that he is prepared to accept this amendment. Is the amendment agreed? Agreed.[An Cathaoirleach]Vol-256 Book-7 Page [402]
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