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Order of Business (Continued)

Tuesday, 28 March 2017

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 944 No. 2

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  3 o’clock

(Speaker Continuing)

[An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl] I took into account that I received the request for a private notice question after I had made a decision to call people for a Topical Issue. I am conscious of the fact that the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality will answer questions in the House on Thursday. I am further conscious of the fact that the Garda Commissioner is to go before the Joint Committee on Justice and Equality during the week. In my view, as far as the private notice question is concerned, there were quite a number of other avenues through which that particular matter could be considered.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin On a point of order, it might not necessarily have been out of order.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl It was not in order because there were-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Would it not have been done through ultra vires Standing Orders?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No. I do not think it would, but I made a judgment based on the opportunities, in accordance with long, long established precedent.

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar On that point also-----

Deputy Jonathan O'Brien: Information on Jonathan O'Brien Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien If it was in order-----

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar The Whip's office did not receive a request from Sinn Féin for time. Sinn Féin may have gone to the Business Committee, but it did not come to the-----

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Are people in agreement that we will meet at 3.30 p.m.?

Deputy Jonathan O'Brien: Information on Jonathan O'Brien Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien No, hang on. The Ceann Comhairle will tell me if this is in order because if we are going to agree that we will meet at 3.30 p.m., then that means we would have agreed the Order of Business as has been proposed. Can I propose that we adjourn for 30 minutes for the Business Committee to meet and bring forward a revised Order of Business? I would feel very uncomfortable voting on the current Order of Business without an agreement that the Minister would come before the House later today. I propose an adjournment for 30 minutes until the Business Committee can meet.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Could we not just agree the Order of Business while we are here?

(Interruptions).

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl The business as set out before the House is not controversial. There is nothing to be gained by anybody-----

Deputy Jonathan O'Brien: Information on Jonathan O'Brien Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien The problem is that it does not include the controversial issue.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I am giving the Deputy an undertaking that we will convene a meeting at 3.30 p.m. and if that requires a further proposal to be put to the House, we will come back with that further proposal.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin That is fine.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl We can come back at 4 p.m. or 4.30 p.m. with a further proposal if that is agreed.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin The next item on the agenda is Taoiseach's Questions which is about 45 minutes so at the end of that session it should be clear whether a resolution has been found.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Yes.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin If there is no resolution we could get back to the floor of the House.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Yes. Can I take it that the proposal for dealing with Tuesday's Order of Business is agreed to?

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Subject to further amendments.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl No. It is either agreed to or not agreed to.

The Taoiseach: Information on Leo Varadkar Zoom on Leo Varadkar The Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality has been invited to attend and she is attending.

Deputy Denise Mitchell: Information on Denise Mitchell Zoom on Denise Mitchell The Order of Business is not agreed.

Deputy Jonathan O'Brien: Information on Jonathan O'Brien Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien It is not agreed.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl It is not agreed. Okay.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger If I may make a suggestion; I do not know why we cannot agree. If we are agreeing the Order of Business to be discussed today, and we have the agenda in front of us, we have made a proposal that Government business would become the space in which the Minister would answer questions. I do not see any other way it could be done.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl We have no-----

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty With respect, the Business Committee decides what goes on during Government Business. We have that committee in order that we might discuss ordering our business around a table as opposed to across the Chamber.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Matters have moved on since the Business Committee met and the Minister of State, Deputy Regina Doherty, has not taken that fact into account. That is the point.

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty It has and that is why we need another meeting.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Let me be clear. It is not a matter for the House to decide what happens in Government Business time.

Deputy Pearse Doherty: Information on Pearse Doherty Zoom on Pearse Doherty Deputy Jonathan O'Brien made a very valid suggestion to the effect that we should adjourn at this point. There are ten minutes left for the Order of Business. If we adjourn now to let the Business Committee decide and if the latter comes up with a solution, then that can be included in a new Order of Business and Members can decide if they want to support it.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl I will take that.

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty Can I make a suggestion?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Yes.

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty I do not know why we would need to adjourn or why Taoiseach's Questions could not proceed. We could have the Business Committee meeting-----

Deputy Jonathan O'Brien: Information on Jonathan O'Brien Zoom on Jonathan O'Brien Because we do not trust that.

Deputy Ruth Coppinger: Information on Ruth Coppinger Zoom on Ruth Coppinger Because we might have to scrap them, that is why.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Could I make a suggestion for a compromise?

Deputy Regina Doherty: Information on Regina Doherty Zoom on Regina Doherty We cannot scrap Taoiseach's Questions, we are governed by Standing Orders.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Is it possible to adjourn the taking of the Order of Business until after Taoiseach's Questions, for the latter to proceed and for the Business Committee to meet in the interim? We could then take the Order of Business.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl That would make more sense. We could go straight into Taoiseach's Questions now and while they are being taken, we will convene a meeting of the Business Committee.

Deputy Josepha Madigan: Information on Josepha Madigan Zoom on Josepha Madigan I want to know about the debate on promised legislation and where it will fit in.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl It is not going to fit in now. We will convene a meeting of the Business Committee in Room 2 immediately and the House will proceed with Taoiseach's Questions.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett Will we be coming back to Bills to be introduced?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Zoom on Seán Ó Fearghaíl Yes, we will be coming back to them.


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