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Wednesday, 3 July 2013

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 809 No. 3

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  11 o’clock

(Speaker Continuing)

[Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath] How can we take this Government seriously when it cannot even deal with relatively straightforward issues such as applications for third level education grants? The SUSI system is a shambles. Those involved are people who want to educate themselves in order to obtain work or set up a business.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Thank you Deputy.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath I am not yet finished. The Government has broken all of its promises. The Taoiseach reneged on his commitment to the families of those killed in the Omagh bomb and to the Stardust victims' committee. He told them that they would never have to make another telephone call but they have not heard from him in two and a half years. The Government has also broken its promise on the late Fr. Niall Molloy issue. These are simple issues, which have nothing to do with the economy, on which the Government has reneged on its promises. This is a Government of broken promises. The young people of this country will never forgive it. We cannot allow youth unemployment to continually increase.

Deputy Pat Rabbitte: Information on Pat Rabbitte Zoom on Pat Rabbitte Deputy McGrath is very hard on us.

Deputy Noel Coonan: Information on Noel Coonan Zoom on Noel Coonan The Deputy should read his script.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Members of the Government backbenches can laugh all they like. However, they can hide but they cannot run.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin The saying is "You can run but you cannot hide".

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath The Government can neither run nor hide.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Thank you Deputy.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath There is no place to run.

A Deputy: Run like a rabbit.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Run like a rabbit in the fog lights.

Deputy Simon Harris: Information on Simon Harris Zoom on Simon Harris Stick to the script.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt A question please, Deputy.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath It is a matter of trust. The young have lost trust in this Government. Why is it that one in four of our young people have to leave our shores? It is a tragedy. Will the Government establish a specific ministry to deal with this issue? The time for talking and rubbing hands has long past. There are too many Departments dealing with this issue. We need a Minister who is focused and dedicated to bringing an end to youth unemployment.

Deputies: Hear, hear.

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton It is difficult to know where to start.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath That is what happened, the Government never started.

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton The Deputy said that the Government does not understand enterprise. The truth is that enterprise and predominantly small business have created 25,000 net new jobs in the past 12 months.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath In spite of the Government.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Allow the Minister to respond please.

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton Most of those jobs were in the export sector. Government support through the IDA-Enterprise Ireland is at the heart of development of this sector. I defy anyone to criticise the work of those agencies whose budgets have been protected. Even in this difficult time we have protected budgets to support enterprise, the value of which is reflected in the 25,000 net additional people at work in the private sector.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath How many full-time jobs have been created?

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton The Deputy asked what is happening on the live register. The number of people on the live register has decreased for the twelfth month in a row.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Pat yourselves on the back?

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton The percentage of people unemployed has also reduced from 15% to 13.6%. While that is progress, it is not enough progress. We need to do more in this space.

Deputy Noel Grealish: Information on Noel Grealish Zoom on Noel Grealish The Irish population in Australia has increased by 30%.

(Interruptions).

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton Some €2.5 million of new funding has been made available through Government agencies to small and medium enterprise. These is new funding to support expansion of the type of enterprises of which the Deputy spoke. As rightly acknowledged by the Deputy, some 60% of those who engaged in JobBridge have been retained in employment.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath That is just papering over the cracks.

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton The new scheme will provide people in business with the opportunity to recruit directly from the live register and get an upfront cash subsidy.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath What about SUSI?

(Interruptions).

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton These are new ideas that are showing results. The Deputy wants to remain in the time warp of criticising rather than putting forward worthwhile solutions. His only suggestion is that we create a new ministry. What we need is policies that work. That is what this Government is developing. We are seeing results in terms of the number of enterprises recruiting. That is the ultimate solution to this challenge.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath Live horse and you'll get grass.

Order of Business

Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation (Deputy Richard Bruton): Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton It is proposed to take No. 10a, motion re membership of committee; No. 17, Houses of the Oireachtas (Inquiries, Privileges and Procedures) Bill 2013 - Report Stage (resumed) and Final Stage; No. 18, Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Bill 2013 - Order for Report, Report and Final Stages; No. 19, Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012 - Order for Report, Report and Final Stages; and No. 20, Taxi Regulation Bill 2012 [Seanad] - Second Stage (resumed).

  It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn not later than 10 p.m.; No. 10a shall be decided without debate; the resumed Report and Final Stages of No. 17 shall be taken today and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 1.30 p.m. today by one Question which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform; the Report and Final Stages of No. 18 shall be taken today and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 6.30 p.m. today by one Question which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Justice and Equality; the Report and Final Stages of No. 19 shall be taken today and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 10 p.m. tonight by one Question which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform; in the event a division is in progress at the time fixed for taking Private Members' business, which shall be No. 42, Equal Status (Amendment) Bill 2013 – Second Stage (resumed), Standing Order 121(3) shall not apply and Private Members' business shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt There are six proposals to put to the House. Is the proposal that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. and adjourn not later than 10 p.m. Agreed? Agreed.

  Is the proposal for dealing with No. 10a agreed?

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Perhaps the Minister would outline the purpose of the motion.

Deputy Eric Byrne: Information on Eric J. Byrne Zoom on Eric J. Byrne The Deputy knows well what it is about.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Will the Minister outline what is involved?

Deputy Paul Kehoe: Information on Paul Kehoe Zoom on Paul Kehoe The Deputy changed membership of a fair few committees in his time.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Is the proposal for dealing with No. 10a agreed?

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin I would like the Minister to set out what committees will be affected.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin They are listed on the Order Paper.

Deputy Michael Healy-Rae: Information on Michael Healy-Rae Zoom on Michael Healy-Rae Name the committees.

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton The motion relates to the change of membership on a number of committees.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Will the Minister name the committees involved?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Is the proposal agreed?

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please. The motion is on the Order Paper. Does the Minister have anything else to say on this matter?

Deputy Richard Bruton: Information on Richard Bruton Zoom on Richard Bruton As in the case of all other motions, the motion is on the Order Paper, which the Deputy, like everyone else, can read.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin What does it say?

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin This is a procedural matter.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin In terms of the procedures of the House, it is ridiculous that the Minister is not willing to stand up and announce the changes.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Is the proposal agreed?

Deputy Eric Byrne: Information on Eric J. Byrne Zoom on Eric J. Byrne If the Deputy does not agree he should call a vote.

Deputy Billy Kelleher: Information on Billy Kelleher Zoom on Billy Kelleher The politburo is back in town.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Is the proposal for dealing with No. 10a agreed? Agreed.

  Is the proposal for dealing with No. 17 agreed?

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin No. This is a lengthy Order of Business. We may not have enough time to get through all that has been proposed.

  Before dealing with this specific issue, I wish to congratulate our Ombudsman and Information Commissioner, Ms Emily O'Reilly, on her election as European Ombudsman.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Hear, hear.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin It is an extraordinary tribute to her ability and illustrates the heights to which Irish journalists can go in Europe and globally. I wish her every success in her future career. This reflects well on our own office. I am delighted Ms O'Reilly has been successful in achieving a high honour.

In terms of the motion before us, Fianna Fáil's spokesperson on public expenditure and reform, Deputy Seán Fleming, was allocated only six minutes yesterday to speak on important amendments which have been tabled to the Bill which, if accepted, would strengthen the legislation and broaden the capacity to hold non-officeholders and others to account.


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