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Order of Business (Continued)

Thursday, 13 December 2012

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 786 No. 3

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(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please.

Deputy Mary Lou McDonald: Information on Mary Lou McDonald Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald -----that cuts to carers, parents and children would be rushed through in such a glib and a cynical fashion. That is what the Members opposite all stand accused of now - complete and utter cynicism.

I know the Tánaiste is not going to change his mind on the guillotining of the debate because God forbid some of his people, in particular, might think better of what they are about to do. He should allow a full and frank debate on this. These cuts will hurt people and damage their standard of living and their lives. It is only two weeks to Christmas and this is the Christmas gift from this awful Government-----

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath You have cancelled Christmas.

Deputy Mary Lou McDonald: Information on Mary Lou McDonald Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald -----to carers, women and mothers.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Thank you, Deputy. I call Deputy Boyd Barrett.

Deputy Mary Lou McDonald: Information on Mary Lou McDonald Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald We object to the guillotining of the debate and ask the Tánaiste to reconsider it.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett Earlier the Tánaiste rightly or wrongly ridiculed some of the Opposition for not fully scrutinising the supplementary health budget at the health committee, and I was not at the health committee, and now-----

Deputy Robert Dowds: Information on Robert Dowds Zoom on Robert Dowds You did not call for a vote.

Deputy Billy Kelleher: Information on Billy Kelleher Zoom on Billy Kelleher Does the Deputy have to call a vote to close hospitals or do you understand anything? You are a pity.

Deputy James Bannon: Information on James Bannon Zoom on James Bannon Billy was caught napping.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please. Deputies, could we have less cross-fire and allow Deputy Boyd Barrett to proceed?

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle. In his comments criticising the Opposition for the points they made, the Tánaiste said Deputies should do their job in scrutinising legislation and yet he is denying Deputies in this House the opportunity to scrutinise fully this legislation. That is as clear as day.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath He has done a U-turn.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett With the time the Tánaiste has allowed for the debate and the guillotine that will be imposed on it, we simply will not get to discuss some of the most substantive issues-----

Deputy Mary Mitchell O'Connor: Information on Mary Mitchell O'Connor Zoom on Mary Mitchell O'Connor The Deputy is wasting time.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett -----in this Bill that will affect the lives of struggling families, families affected by disability, children and women. That is an affront to democracy. It is an affront to the Tánaiste's promises for a new type of politics. It gives an opportunity, as we saw last night, for the Minister to filibuster on less important issues, to talk down the clock in order that we do not get to the substantial issues. The Minister of State, Deputy Hayes, can smile-----

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes I am looking at the clock. It is the Deputy's clock.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett -----wryly all he likes, the truth is-----

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes The Deputy is talking down the clock.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett -----from the moment the Government imposed the guillotine on the debate it became impossible to have a serious debate on the amendments that have been put forward-----

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes The Deputy does not want a serious debate.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett -----which could obviate the need to impose these brutal cuts.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Thank you, Deputy.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett We have proposed alternative PRSI measures, fair measures, which would take the burden off people on low and middle incomes, off the unemployed and so on.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes Keep filibustering.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Deputy Boyd Barrett, we are not debating the Bill now.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett I ask the Tánaiste to lift the guillotine on the debate and allow it to take place.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt I call the Tánaiste to reply.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore We provided additional time yesterday but the Opposition used it up in political gamesmanship. We provided an additional sitting on Friday last and there were not enough Opposition speakers to keep it going.

Hear, hear.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please. Allow the Tánaiste to conclude.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore We provided for an additional day's sitting this week on Monday and it had to be cancelled because the Opposition could not fulfil it.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin That is irrelevant. That is a red herring.

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley That is outrageous.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore There was a period of time yesterday evening in the course of the debate when there was no Fianna Fáil Member in the House.

Deputy Billy Kelleher: Information on Billy Kelleher Zoom on Billy Kelleher We took up our allocation.

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley We took up our entire allocation.

(Interruptions).

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore The Members opposite should not be looking for additional time-----

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath That is ráiméis.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore -----when they cannot fulfil the obligation. This is great for a grandstand on the Order of Business.

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley There is no grandstanding------

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore The Opposition keeps looking for extra time and it does not fulfil it.

Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly: Information on Stephen Donnelly Zoom on Stephen Donnelly That is outrageous. The Tánaiste should be ashamed of himself. He calls himself a democrat.

A Deputy: You were not here.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore Where was the Deputy on Friday? Where was he on Monday?

Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly: Information on Stephen Donnelly Zoom on Stephen Donnelly The Tánaiste should be ashamed of himself.

(Interruptions).

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Order, please. The Tánaiste to conclude.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore I am responding to the issues that were raised.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett Ask the troika can we have time for the debate.

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore The Opposition keeps asking for additional time in the House and when we provide additional time the Opposition does not come in and use it.

(Interruptions).

The Tánaiste: Information on Eamon Gilmore Zoom on Eamon Gilmore You just made a big fuss about the health Estimate and you did not even vote on it at committee.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin On a point of Order-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt I am about to put the question.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin On a point of order-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt I did not see the Deputy.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin The Tánaiste has seriously misled the House in what will go down-----

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes That is not a point of order.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin -----as one of the most cynical, dishonest remarks he has made. Our party participated fully in the debate last evening. What everybody in this House wants is more time to discuss the Social Welfare Bill. Do not throw in any more red herrings or comments about other debates last Friday or Monday. It is dishonest and cynical and the Tánaiste's credibility is in shreds given the contempt in which he is holding and treating this House. It is contemptuous.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Michael Kitt Zoom on Michael Kitt Thank you Deputy.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin With all that has gone on here about democratic reform, the Tánaiste meant nothing of it.

Deputy Brian Hayes: Information on Brian Hayes Zoom on Brian Hayes What an actor.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin It has been politically fraudulent behaviour by the Tánaiste for the last couple of years. He is a political fraud.

Deputy Frank Feighan: Information on Frank Feighan Zoom on Frank Feighan Why was the Deputy not like that with Bertie-----

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley You closed Roscommon hospital.

Deputy Frank Feighan: Information on Frank Feighan Zoom on Frank Feighan Everything was "Yes Bertie, No Bertie"-----

Deputy Timmy Dooley: Information on Timmy Dooley Zoom on Timmy Dooley The Deputy stayed on the train and it had stopped.


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