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Order of Business (Continued)

Tuesday, 4 December 2012

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 785 No. 1

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(Speaker Continuing)

[Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin] The Taoiseach denied vehemently to me some months ago on Leaders' Questions that there would be any Supplementary Estimate for the Department of Health. We have consistently raised the failure of the Minister in terms of his commitment on health insurers, that he would find more funding from pricing and that he would get €100 million from agency staff. None of that happened and that is why we oppose the motion as presented.

Deputy Gerry Adams: Information on Gerry Adams Zoom on Gerry Adams On 21 November, during the Order of Business, I asked the Taoiseach if he intended to introduce a Supplementary Estimate for the Department of Health and he refused to tell me; he refused to answer and dodged the question. Later on the same day, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform confirmed there would be a Supplementary Estimate for the Department of Health. That shows the difference in attitude in the Government parties towards the Minister for Health. The Taoiseach covers up while the Labour Party Minister comes clean. I do not know why the Taoiseach did not tell me. Did he not know? Was the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform speaking out of turn? How do we do business in this institution?

This is a €360 million addition to the Department's budget and while Sinn Féin supports the proper funding of the health service, this shows the Minister's original Estimate was complete fantasy. He has failed to recoup the costs of private patients in public beds despite a commitment to do so.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Barrett Zoom on Seán Barrett We cannot debate the issue on the Order of Business.

Deputy Gerry Adams: Information on Gerry Adams Zoom on Gerry Adams The savings on generic drugs have failed to materialise. This is not a good way to do business and if the Taoiseach was sitting on the Opposition benches, he would say the same. I asked a straight, legitimate question and the Taoiseach did not answer. A couple of hours later, when Deputy McDonald asked another Minister the same question, he answered it. Why can the Oireachtas not be told what is going on in the health services?

The Taoiseach: Information on Enda Kenny Zoom on Enda Kenny I note the opposition of Deputy Martin and Deputy Adams to the proposal. These matters will be referred to the committee on Tuesday and everyone will have the opportunity to talk about them there. The budget is tomorrow and there will be follow on debate with that on Thursday. Other matters are already laid out. The proposition here is to refer this to the Select Sub-Committee on Health next Tuesday. There will be ample opportunity then for people to discuss these Supplementary Estimates.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin The Taoiseach indicated that he would not oppose a debate on this.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Barrett Zoom on Seán Barrett There cannot be a debate on this. I am putting the question.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin I am trying to reach a consensus on this. The Taoiseach said that Paddy wants to know but he is the last person who knows round here.

Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with Nos. 11 and 12 be agreed to."

The Dáil divided: Tá, 91; Níl, 47.

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Information on Richard Bruton  Zoom on Richard Bruton  Bruton, Richard. Information on Joan Collins  Zoom on Joan Collins  Collins, Joan.
Information on Joan Burton  Zoom on Joan Burton  Burton, Joan. Information on Niall Collins  Zoom on Niall Collins  Collins, Niall.
Information on Ray Butler  Zoom on Ray Butler  Butler, Ray. Information on Michael Colreavy  Zoom on Michael Colreavy  Colreavy, Michael.
Information on Jerry Buttimer  Zoom on Jerry Buttimer  Buttimer, Jerry. Information on Barry Cowen  Zoom on Barry Cowen  Cowen, Barry.
Information on Eric J. Byrne  Zoom on Eric J. Byrne  Byrne, Eric. Information on Clare Daly  Zoom on Clare Daly  Daly, Clare.
Information on Joe Carey  Zoom on Joe Carey  Carey, Joe. Information on Pearse Doherty  Zoom on Pearse Doherty  Doherty, Pearse.
Information on Paudie Coffey  Zoom on Paudie Coffey  Coffey, Paudie. Information on Stephen Donnelly  Zoom on Stephen Donnelly  Donnelly, Stephen S.
Information on Áine Collins  Zoom on Áine Collins  Collins, Áine. Information on Timmy Dooley  Zoom on Timmy Dooley  Dooley, Timmy.
Information on Michael Conaghan  Zoom on Michael Conaghan  Conaghan, Michael. Information on Dessie Ellis  Zoom on Dessie Ellis  Ellis, Dessie.
Information on Sean Conlan  Zoom on Sean Conlan  Conlan, Seán. Information on Martin Ferris  Zoom on Martin Ferris  Ferris, Martin.
Information on Paul Connaughton  Zoom on Paul Connaughton  Connaughton, Paul J. Information on Seán Fleming  Zoom on Seán Fleming  Fleming, Sean.
Information on Ciara Conway  Zoom on Ciara Conway  Conway, Ciara. Information on Tom Fleming  Zoom on Tom Fleming  Fleming, Tom.
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Information on Marcella Corcoran Kennedy  Zoom on Marcella Corcoran Kennedy  Corcoran Kennedy, Marcella. Information on Seamus Healy  Zoom on Seamus Healy  Healy, Seamus.
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Information on Kieran O'Donnell  Zoom on Kieran O'Donnell  O'Donnell, Kieran.  
Information on Patrick O'Donovan  Zoom on Patrick O'Donovan  O'Donovan, Patrick.  
Information on Fergus O'Dowd  Zoom on Fergus O'Dowd  O'Dowd, Fergus.  
Information on John O'Mahony  Zoom on John O'Mahony  O'Mahony, John.  
Information on Joe O'Reilly  Zoom on Joe O'Reilly  O'Reilly, Joe.  
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Information on Ann Phelan  Zoom on Ann Phelan  Phelan, Ann.  
Information on John Paul Phelan  Zoom on John Paul Phelan  Phelan, John Paul.  
Information on Ruairí Quinn  Zoom on Ruairí Quinn  Quinn, Ruairí.  
Information on Pat Rabbitte  Zoom on Pat Rabbitte  Rabbitte, Pat.  
Information on James Reilly  Zoom on James Reilly  Reilly, James.  
Information on Brendan Ryan  Zoom on Brendan Ryan  Ryan, Brendan.  
Information on Alan Shatter  Zoom on Alan Shatter  Shatter, Alan.  
Information on Seán Sherlock  Zoom on Seán Sherlock  Sherlock, Sean.  
Information on Arthur Spring  Zoom on Arthur Spring  Spring, Arthur.  
Information on Emmet Stagg  Zoom on Emmet Stagg  Stagg, Emmet.  
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Tellers: Tá, Deputies Emmet Stagg and Paul Kehoe; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Seán Ó Fearghaíl.

Question declared carried.


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