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Wednesday, 5 January 1966

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 219 No. 9

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An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Patrick Hogan Zoom on Patrick Hogan Motion on Trade Agreement, resumed.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave I want to raise the question of what proposals the Taoiseach has for resuming this debate after the adjournment this evening.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass If there is any desire on the part of either Opposition Party to reach a conclusion and a vote on this discussion in this week, I am prepared to facilitate them either by agreeing to sit late tonight or to sit tomorrow and Friday. If it is to be a more protracted debate, then I think we must continue it in the normal session.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave I suppose we will hardly resume tomorrow as it is a Church holiday. I suggest we resume on Friday and conclude the debate by sitting late.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass If that is agreed.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully That would not be acceptable to us. We have quite a number of speakers and we indicated before the debate that we wanted time for them.

Mr. S. Dunne: Information on Seán Dunne Zoom on Seán Dunne We heard that Fine Gael had 23 speakers.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave I suggest we sit late tonight and sit again on Friday.

Mr. Sweetman: Information on Gerard Sweetman Zoom on Gerard Sweetman The Taoiseach will recollect that Deputy Cosgrave wrote officially to him stating that we thought it would be more suitable for this debate [1278] to take place next week. We have the letter and I will read it to the Taoiseach if he wants it read. We suggested that this debate should take place on the 11th because we would have a non-interrupted week. Secondly, during the absence of Deputy L'Estrange, our Chief Whip, in the country, I myself telephoned the Parliamentary Secretary's Office and informed that Office that we considered that this debate was of such importance that there should be no restriction on it.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass That is not my understanding of the position. My understanding——

Mr. Sweetman: Information on Gerard Sweetman Zoom on Gerard Sweetman If the Taoiseach will excuse me for a moment, I am telling the Taoiseach about something of which I have personal knowledge. If the Taoiseach's methods of communication between himself and his Parliamentary Secretary have broken down, it is not our fault.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass My understanding of the position was that it had been agreed originally that this debate should be held next week but it was brought forward at the request of the Opposition Parties.

Mr. Sweetman: Information on Gerard Sweetman Zoom on Gerard Sweetman That is untrue.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave I think both Opposition Parties suggested in writing—I wrote the letter for my Party—that the debate should be held on the 11th but the Taoiseach's Parliamentary Secretary's Office suggested that we should agree to the 4th. We said that we had no objection. Subsequently the Parliamentary Secretary's Office said that tomorrow was a Church holiday and I said I could not guarantee that the debate would end on Wednesday and that we would have to sit the following week.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass I am sure that by unanimous agreement we can sit on a Church holiday without offending anybody's religious feelings.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully We asked for the 11th January and we did not move from the 11th until we were assured [1279] by the Taoiseach's Office that both the Taoiseach and Deputy Cosgrave preferred the 4th.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass There was some misunderstanding.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave Then we will sit at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass Better say 11 o'clock tomorrow.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully If that entails a guarantee that the debate will finish on Friday, we are not prepared to agree to any closure on the debate.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass There is no question of a closure. We will sit until 10.30 tonight and meet at 11 o'clock tomorrow.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully Yesterday evening arrangements were made to conclude at 5 o'clock and arrangements for speakers and so on were upset because of that. This matter should have been raised when the arrangements were being made last night, not now.

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass It is not beyond the resources of the Deputy to summon his troops and talk to them.

Mr. James Tully: Information on James Tully Zoom on James Tully They are around all right.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Patrick Hogan Zoom on Patrick Hogan 10.30 p.m. this evening and resume at 11 a.m. tomorrow.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave Until what time tomorrow?

The Taoiseach: Information on Seán F. Lemass Zoom on Seán F. Lemass 10.30 p.m.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on Liam Cosgrave Zoom on Liam Cosgrave And resume on Friday, if the debate has not concluded.


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