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An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (Continued)

Tuesday, 2 July 2019

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 984 No. 5

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Deputy Mary Lou McDonald: Information on Mary Lou McDonald Zoom on Mary Lou McDonald It is not sufficient simply for the Minister to skate over this matter with a statement at the beginning and a statement from the Government at the end. This is a very serious issue. We need the Minister to answer questions as well as providing additional time for the discussion.

Deputy Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire: Information on Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire Zoom on Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire Hear, hear.

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin On the same issue, I am not satisfied to simply have statements on this matter because Members come in, make a statement and that is that. This is an important issue. Deputy Micheál Martin referred to the extent of deforestation. Some 8,000 sq. km of rainforest were destroyed last year alone. That is an area the size of County Cork. These are fundamental issues if we are serious about climate change. I would like the Government to issue a motion on which the House can reach a determination, rather than Members coming in to make statements. In particular, the allocation of seven minutes to the larger parties to be divided between two or three Members is not the way to deal with an issue as important as this. I realise that time is very limited this week, but the Government should present a motion to the House next week and ask for the views of the House on it.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett We must have considerably more time to discuss this matter because there are so many different aspects to it. There is an impact on farmers in this country and there is also significant detrimental impact on farmers and indigenous communities in Latin America.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher We are not going into detail on the matter.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett I am making a point about more time being needed due to the various aspects of the issue. On transport, Europe sending gas-guzzling cars to Latin America and countries there sending beef thousands of kilometres across the sea have significant climate implications.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher We are not going into the content of the issue.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett That needs to be discussed. We need several Ministers to answer questions on this issue. It is not just an agricultural issue. We need to be able to ask questions of those Ministers.

Deputy Mattie McGrath: Information on Mattie McGrath Zoom on Mattie McGrath The Rural Independent Group is very concerned about this matter. We should deal with the matter in the manner suggested by Deputy Howlin, namely, that the Government would issue a motion and the House would have a proper and meaningful debate, including questions and answers, because this is a very serious issue for rural and urban Ireland.

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Seán Kyne): Information on Seán Kyne Zoom on Seán Kyne The proposal was for the Minister for Business, Enterprise and Innovation, Deputy Humphreys, to open the debate tomorrow and for it to be concluded by the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Deputy Creed, after contributions from the various parties and groups. I would be happy for the debate to adjourn after an hour rather than concluding and that the Business Committee would decide on extra time to be provided for the matter this week or next week, including the option to sit this Friday or next. There is no problem with that.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There is a proposal that-----

Deputy Brendan Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin Zoom on Brendan Howlin Is there any possibility of the Government issuing a motion on the matter rather than having statements?

Deputy Seán Kyne: Information on Seán Kyne Zoom on Seán Kyne That would have to be agreed at Cabinet, so I am not in a position to state whether that would be possible. There is an hour scheduled tomorrow for statements on the matter.

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin We should let the Business Committee decide.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Is the proposal that additional time will be provided for the matter next week? The Government will have to consider whether to go ahead with statements or issue a motion. That is a matter for it to decide. In the meantime, is the suggestion that the time provided tomorrow for the matter would be taken up with questions and a minute given to each-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin I do not think there will be sufficient time to ask questions on the matter tomorrow as each of the larger parties has only been allocated seven minutes. I agree that it could be adjourned to next week when the allocated hour elapses. The Business Committee should consider the facilitation of further debate on the matter in next week's session when more time will be available, and the Government should co-operate with the spirit of Deputy McDonald's point on questions. One hour tomorrow is not sufficient to have statements and questions. I agree with the suggestion of the Government Chief Whip.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There is a suggestion that the House avail of the hour scheduled for tomorrow. The matter will be discussed at the meeting of the Business Committee on Thursday. It seems to be the view of the House that time should be provided next week, or perhaps the week after-----

Deputy Micheál Martin: Information on Micheál Martin Zoom on Micheál Martin Next week.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The provision of additional time will be discussed on Thursday. There is goodwill on all sides in regard to additional time being provided next week.

Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett: Information on Richard Boyd Barrett Zoom on Richard Boyd Barrett I suggest that we drop Topical Issue matters tomorrow and provide an extra 50 minutes to discussion of this issue.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher The House will be sitting until 11.45 p.m. anyway. Subject to-----

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae: Information on Danny Healy-Rae Zoom on Danny Healy-Rae Can I ask-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No, the spokesperson of the Rural Independent Group has spoken.

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae: Information on Danny Healy-Rae Zoom on Danny Healy-Rae May I ask that-----

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher No, you may not.

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae: Information on Danny Healy-Rae Zoom on Danny Healy-Rae -----a motion be issued next week and that there be a vote on the motion?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher Was the Deputy listening? That is in the mix for the Business Committee to decide. I am sure Deputy Mattie McGrath will reflect Deputy Healy-Rae's views when the committee meets..

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae: Information on Danny Healy-Rae Zoom on Danny Healy-Rae There should be a motion and a vote on the motion.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information on Pat the Cope Gallagher Zoom on Pat the Cope Gallagher There will be a vote on Thursday.


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